Do we know why the protocol might NOT work for somebody?

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Dear all,

 

Does anyone know why the protocol might not work as well for some as for others? Or, to put another way, does the protocol work eventually for everyone or are some not successful ever? As far as I can tell, everyone will be successful eventually - it's just the time factor that is the problem sometimes. Is this a correct assumption? 

deir's picture
deir

Sorry- I know I started you on this line of thinking!!LOL
 
Yes- I believe it will be successful because I believe in this type of healing- focusing in the gut and balance.But this is certainly a fear I grapple with.
 
How are you?

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veryhappymom

If you can tolerate the herbs and probiotics, you will see quicker success than someone that cannot tolerate as many items at the beginning of treatment.  With time, you should be able to tolerate taking more herbs at higher doses. 

deir's picture
deir

Hi VHM- I unfortunately seem to be someone who is not tolerating the herbs and probiotics too well. Do you know anyone else who struggled in the beginning but went on to heal? Matia started me on JUice Plus today because i can't seem to tolerate the bifido- although at one point I was! So confsing. Just wondering since you've been around a little onger if you could point me towrds a few successful patients I could contact. Thanks!

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Vin43

I think that I am more sick than I thought. Some days are truly awful with the physical symptoms. I just can't believe that I could go from feeling great one day to waking up the next feeling like this. All these other symptoms are horrendous and truly frightening. I wish that I could get them under control. It's got to the stage where I don't know what is part of IC and what is 'other' (eg, feeling like I'm having a heart attack, difficulty drawing breath, etc.). Awful. I think this is why I am so all over the place - I wish that I could control the symptoms to some extent. At the moment, they are controlling me. 

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blondy

Vin, are you doing anything to try to feel better, i.e., Matia's protocol, accupancture, diet, anything else?

Vin43's picture
Vin43

protocol. The whole thing is beyod frightening because the symptoms are so intense. It has obviously gone 'systemic' with me this time and has progressed enormously. This really scares me too. Does anyone know whether 'older' patients or those with 'older' disease progress at different rates to others? I'm trying to find some hope in all of this as at the moment, every day is a prison, with no enjoyable or quality of life parts to my day at all. 

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researchnerd

girl-
i had those symtpoms for A YEAR so did another one of matia's patients that im friendly with.  the heart attack/breathing is SO SCARY!!!!!!  but, if you've had it checked (i did a zillion times too), it does go away.  it just takes awhile.  its a die off thing.
 
just try to relax about it, crazy as it seems.  if you put it into the search box on icama TONS of stories come up.
 
 

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researchnerd

Does Matia know you're doing this?  Is she ok with it?  Why are you not regularly contacting her?  

Vin43's picture
Vin43

contact with her. I worry thatI might be the one who can't be fixed. Do we have any statistics on her success rates? It would be helpful to know. It would also be good to know how many people (even young ones) have symptoms other than the bladder. When I had this in my twenties, I had only slightly annoying  bladder symptoms. If only I had known then how to fix this! It would have been gone in a week, I bet!!