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I had been having a very good run of 3 weeks with very low/no bladder sx. Then two weeks ago things turned and I am not feeling well at all. Dr. Brizman is sure we will get back on track but I would love to hear any stories of Juice Plus and how it helped you. I still have some housecleaning (cleansing) she calls it to do. Probably a bit of candida still left but she wants to go more gently, as SF722 might be too strong for me right now.
THANKS!
HI Mimi,
HI Mimi,
I have been on juice plus for awhile but have been off for the last 2 months after I had a lingering cold that wouldn't go away. She said it can prolong a cold because of all the vitamins in it, or something.
Anway, Juice Plus has been a good friend to me! I made a lot of progress on it, found I had a lot more energy. It helped my skin, my "regularity" and in general my bladder made big strides while taking it. When I had occasional flares that were lasting a couple of days (usually from having sex) she'd take me off it until the flare subsided and then put me back on. I wanted her to put me back on it this month but she didn't! I have to say, I'm more constipated without it. Plus, I've got 3 bottles of each kind sitting in my cabinet now and it's not cheap! Just when I decided to bite the bullet and stock up, now I'm off it.
Anyway, I know there are other posts on here from people with mixed results for Juice Plus so I thought I'd share a positive story. Good luck!
THANKS so much!! Very helpful
THANKS so much!! Very helpful. I am hoping that maybe people don't post about JP either because SF or oregano did the trick for them, or else they were further in treatment and not posting as much. This is what I am hoping!!!!
Anyone else please? :)
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Hi Mimi- She tried JP with me
Hi Mimi- She tried JP with me and it increased my burning. Sorry I don't have better news butmaybe it will be better for you!
My husband takes it now and feels great.
Claire- Isn't it always just when you stock up- she switches you! LOL
Deir- I always either over or
Deir- I always either over or under-order - I guess better over than under with stuff that doesn't go bad. Or maybe I'll just sell it on ebay and then she'll put me back on it....BTW I went to my osteopath the other day and I asked her specifically what kind of osteo she is: it's biodynamic cranial osteopathy. She assured me it was not related to biodynamic farming or Rudolf Steiner. Anyway, I think it has been really beneficial for me and it is VERY gentle.
I'm curious what Matia has told others about why she's adding in Juice Plus. She told me it was "building me up" and being supportive while doing what goldenseal had done but without being so harsh and cleansing. Just curious.
Claire, I still have some
Claire, I still have some yeast because I have acne and toe nail fungus on my left foot (lovely, right?) I have had yeast for many years but I guess my body kept it in check until IC hit last year after 2 rounds of antibiotics for dental work.
She is using JP in place of SF722 because we were not sure I was tolerating SF. I only have a little yeast left and she said the enzymes in the JP are cleansing and will act on the yeast but in a more gentle way than the SF.
I am not sure why I suddenly was having bladder and pelvic sx again after 3-4 weeks of being nearly pain free. I was eating some slightly aged cheese. I was eating baked brown rice mochi which I guess we are not sure about (It is only rice and water, but may be fermented and I have been eating it for months, yikes)!-I have contacted the company to check wether it is fermented or not. A
I am still not doing well on the JP so we are going to scale back even more and then build up again. I guess adding in JP again soon. Sigh.
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Claire here is an intersting
Claire here is an intersting article on JP. It seems to detoxify the lymph, gut and liver. In my case it is acting on the yeast and maybe other bad guys.
http://drmitraray.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Detoxification.pdf
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Thanks Mimi - this article
Thanks Mimi - this article was interesting. My boyfriend with chronic lyme found it interesting, too. Hope you're doing OK today!
Oh geez Mimi, the Mochi we
Oh geez Mimi, the Mochi we love could be fermented? Did you as Dr. M about it? Please let me know what you find out.
Hope you feel better soon!
Sorry Heather
Sorry Heather
Hold off on it until I talk to the company. They have not responded yet. Good news is you could probably buy a mochi machine and make your own. That way it is fresh and you will know there is no mold in it. Sweet rice is prone to fungus. Not to say that the mochi we ate contained fungus, but it could (I guess any rice could?). It may not be a big deal at all. But I am trying to find out what they mean when they say they "cure" it. That just means they drie it but I need to understand better and Dr. B said hold off.
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Hi ceb, does dr. B allow you
Hi ceb, does dr. B allow you to see your osteopath? I feel like a fish out of water not getting treatments...
Hi Mimi, I have been on JP
Hi Mimi, I have been on JP green and red off and on for the past 5 months, but haven't tolerated it very well. Hopefully soon! Hope you are feeling a little better the past couple of days. Thinking of you and sending happy thoughts!
Thanks All
Thanks All
I am up to 3/4 cap of JP-hopefully moving up to 1 full cap in a few days and it is going pretty well. Helps with regularity and it seems to manage my appetitie?? I am hoping I continue to tolerate it as I hope it helps with my horrible bloating and my oily skin/acne.
xo
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Hi Mimi! Lo and behold Dr. B
Hi Mimi! Lo and behold Dr. B started me back on JP. I just don't what to think. I am getting more reflux, terrible nights, burning mess from esophagus to urethra and now getting sharp shocking pains down my spine along with pelvic and rectal pain. Eek. Rather content curled up in a ball. The herbs and supplements just baffle me sometimes, how in the world could such a small amount of something cause such pain?! How is the juice plus going for you?
Hey dear- I react to tiny
Hey dear- I react to tiny amounts too. Hope your reaction clears up soon!!
Thanks, nice to know that you
Thanks, nice to know that you react to tiny changes too. Have my appt today so hopefully can get some answers and some relief! :)
Hi! I am tolerating JP at 3/4
Hi! I am tolerating JP at 3/4 cap. But only b/c she took out my Digesta-lac, which I really need for my abdominal bloating :( But one thing at a time sometimes. Not perfectly comfy on the JP but I did sleep through the night last night after she took out the D-lac so I am grateful for that. Hang in and keep us posted on the JP. It seems to have a lot of theraputic benefits. Each time you go back your body is more used to it and maybe this time you will tolerate!
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Oy C, I spoke too soon. 3/4
Oy C, I spoke too soon. 3/4 cap is giving me horrible burning. Not sure if I will have to stop or drop down to less. How much are you taking? What does Dr. B say about it for you. You and I must need it for the yeast.
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
So sorry Mimi! I am on a 1/4
So sorry Mimi! I am on a 1/4 cap and Dr. B wants me to stick with through the weekend and bump up to 1/2 on Monday, if I don't have massive spike in pain. Yes, the burning is quite intense, but we are pushing my body to the limits. She said supposed to be good for my digestion, energy, and also for the skin. Didn't ask specifically if important for those of us with yeast issues, but I am sure related with our damaged guts from the yeast. I am investing in some of those stick on heating patches and going to attach it to my tank tops so I can wear it to work in hopes to sooth my pain. Holding on for the ride my body is about to embark on. We are determined to get my GI system to digest and absorb nutrients and this means pushing through pain and burning. Hope you get some relief!
C, thanks for posting and
C, thanks for posting and hang in. What heating patches??? The Chinese herbal ones?? Please stay away if that is what you mean. Dr. B does not like those?!
Dr. B said specifically that there are enzymes in the JP (No one ever talks about this on the JP discussion/review sites) that attack the yeast. People do claim it combats their candida in addition to other benefits and detox. It is very cleansing which is probably why we can't be on it for life like some can....
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
The patches are thermacare
The patches are thermacare patches. I asked Dr. B she said ok. I am just going to attach the patches to my clothes so not directly on my skin.
I have done a lot of searching on JP, but never found this info. Thanks for sharing!
I figured you were being
I figured you were being cautions with the patches!! What does the heat do for your pain? She increased the cod saying it would help me tolerate the JP, but not helping much!
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
I figured we were starting to
I figured we were starting to get too small with our posts! :) Yes, very cautious, I will let you know how it goes, if have reaction or not. Heat usually just helps me relax a little so in turn seems to help bring the pain down a little. Anything to help!
How much cod are you taking. I am currently on 1/2 tsp. I agree, never really see a huge reduction in pain with cod. Maybe after a few more doses you will see a difference!
OMG! I was rushing around
OMG! I was rushing around this morning trying to get ready for church and was putting my protocol together. I forgot the cod, I take back my words of not seeing a huge reduction in pain with the cod. I didn't put it together why my pain was so intense until I returned home and saw my 1/2 tsp of cod sitting on the counter. :( Lesson learned, yikes! Are you seeing any improvements today, Mimi? I sure hope so!
Hi C! Yikes! I hate when I
Hi C! Yikes! I hate when I forget part of something! HATE it!
Yes, the cod really helps. I take a full TSP of cod and and working up to 3/4 cap of JP and eventually a full cap. I told myself, if Christina (H or no h?) can do this, I CAN DO THIS! ;)
I had some icky frequency mid day yesterday, but also lots of bladder calm windows. I sure hope this helps my skin. I am SO sick of oily gross skin. SICK OF IT!
JP is making me constipated (this was my tendancy before IC) and SF722 did this also. Need to talk to Dr. B about this.
How are you? This will be a good thread for other JP takers :)
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Hi Mimi! I am glad the cod is
Hi Mimi! I am glad the cod is helping. I know the worst when you realize later that you forgot to take something. Darn brain fog! Wow a whole tsp of cod. I do hope it helps with skin too because my skin is super oily at the moment, but always gets worse when on cod. Not sure if my body isn't properly absorbing the oils or what?! I had a lot of pelvic low back pain and pressure today and frequency issues after upping JP to 1/2 cap. Ugh! Also, more reflux after I eat, but here's to pushing through! WE CAN DO THIS!!!! Yes, my name is spelled with an h. My BM's are changing so many different colors, oh yay! Pale, to yellow, to bright orange and looks might be starting a hint of green now! Lovely! Working in healthcare as not made me shy talking about my poo or other bodily functions! LOL! But, they do seem to be getting so more form to them since adding in JP. Yes, would be curious to know if JP tends to be more on the constipating side. The pendulum may be starting to swing back to constipation after months of diarrhea. Holding on for the ride!
I wanted to update my Juice
I wanted to update my Juice Plus post to say that now my body likes Juice Plus and it has helped my bladder and my skin tremendously and so far no cold this cold season. The firest few months on Juice Plus were tough for me. I also had a LOT of gas and at first a LOT of constipation (like a traffic jam of toxins on JP). I also had periods of intermittent bladder burning especially during the bladder time of day (between 2-5). Not it is still doing a LOT of detoxifying and my body is trying to keep up. Some days I have a lot of fatigue in the middle of the day, but I am trusting the process. Have been on Juice Plus for I think about 7 months and people ask me what I am doing for my skin!!!
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Thank you Mimi for this
Thank you Mimi for this update. Dr. B wanted me on 1/4 cap of juice plus, but so far I can only tolerate a dusting or inflammation in my bowels. I am slowly trying to increase, so your post was very helpful and encouraging. So glad to hear about your skin. I break out still at age 53, and I am seeing
such an improvement in my skin as we progress in treatment. Happy with you!
Mimi, I am so glad the JP is
Mimi, I am so glad the JP is going well! We have been going back and forth between trying to add JP back in for the past 4 days. I don't know, the burning through my body and like Mrs. A insides feel all inflamed when we add it and urgency is much worse. I want JP more than anything just to settle. I am in dire need of energy, but not sure how long to try to push through! How long did everyone give it to see if your body would settle down? Currently trying 1/2 cap just starting again this morning.
I am on 1/2 cap too. Not sure
I am on 1/2 cap too. Not sure if it is good or bad yet!
I think I would give somehting 3 days to see if it settles. I rememberr once, it took me 5 bad days to tolerate bifido and trhen I had a really good spell after that so I am not sure. She almost nver tells me to push through. I always wish she would. In that bif case she told em to and she was right
Hi all - fortunately my
Hi all - fortunately my bladder gives me almost no problems. Unfortunately every day is a struggle with anxiety and obsessive compulsive behavior. Every time I try juice plus it is an absolute nightmare. It ramps my ocd and anxiety up to the max. Dr. Matia has had serious doubts that it's the Juice Plus. While I normally agree with her, in this, I'm pretty certain that she's wrong. Has anyone else had this problem?
Hi Denise, I have troubles
Hi Denise, I have troubles with the anxiety side of things with JP because of the pain, not sure it's the other way around. It is difficult to breathe while on JP. I think it is totally possible that the JP could be increasing your anxiety. We are all so unique with what helps or increases our symptoms. Maybe it's just the right time for JP, but one day it will help tremendously. Hugs!
Denise, I am on this again
Denise, I am on this again right now and I haven't nboticed anything but I think when I first took it which was a long time ago, I had some hyperactivity feeling- not quite anxiety but maybe. I had a hard time sleeping. Interesting that it doesn't seem to be bothering me this time which makes me think what Christina says is right.
Denise this must be very
Denise this must be very frustrating. My understanding of juice plus like a lot of the things that we need is that there is going to be a period of adjustment for all of us in different ways. I am sorry the sx are so severe for you. Dr Brizman has said repeatedly what an important supplement this is for most all of us to tolerate. You still have gi imbalances that contribute to your mental health issues and JP might really, really help. I think it is stirring things up which is necessary and then they will calm. Is it possible you could commit to a month, or to re-evaluate one week at a time just to give your body/mind a good chance with this stuff? Only u know the answer to this but JP has brought me some profound health changes and my OCD is improving
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Hi Mimi, thanks for the input
Hi Mimi, thanks for the input. The last time I tried JP - don't know why she took me off - I just sort of thought this might be making things worse. It was a manageable level so I persevered. This time it sent me completely over the edge. The escalation was over a three day period then I got to the point where the OCD and terror became non-stop. I then stopped, waited a couple of weeks and started again. Unfortunately, even with a half dose, the results were the same.
The fact that I so strongly respond to this, makes me very aware that for some reason, something in my system is lacking what it needs to handle the JP. Or it desperately needs the JP in order to get to the point of handling it? I don't know. I will talk to Dr. M the end of next week.
Take care and Happy Easter
D whatever happened with the
D whatever happened with the JP debacle?
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Hi Mimi,
Hi Mimi,
She took me off of it ASAP - said that she didn't want to do that to me and that there were others ways to get me to where I needed to be.
Of course, now a part of me wants to try it again just to prove that I'm THERE - wherever THERE is.