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Clean by alejandro junger, m.d.  I am halfway into it, it's a short book but a lot of valuable information about diet, detoxing, environmental toxins etc. thought you may like it...

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blondy

I wanted to ask other patients what they consider a must-read for our community. I just finished The Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton. Powerful.
What other books do you recommend for someone who wants to keep learning?
Thanks.

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Willow

I've just downloaded it and am looking forward to reading. I also read The Biology of Belief and found it pretty amazing.

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blondy

Bruce Lipton makes a statement about energy of emotion. However, there is no practical recommendation in the book. How does one change thinking? I started working with an energy counselor. It appears she is a new age follower. At times, she goes so far off what I am accustomed to hear/believe, so I have to filter. Those times are rare, but they do happen.
Does anyone have success in re-routing your thoughts using certain system? I am not talking about suppresing negative thoughts. From reading The Energy of Believe, I imagine that there is a method of replacement previously wired believes.
 
Speaking of computers, I just regained ability to post. I could not capture for long time.

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rocket

Piggybacking on Blondy's last comment, am I the only one who's read all these books -incl The Biology of Belief and many others mentioned on here- and sincerely tried various things and meditation and visualization and power of intention and whatever else and had no affect?  
iN fact it was actually causing me so much anxiety bc I was so sincere about it and nothing was changing and it felt more pressuring so I finally just gave it up-- and interestingly after that I finally had my first slight physical shift for the better but don't know if related.  
Anyway, I don't know if I was doing it right? ...or some things no matter how much "ohm" and light you put out there I might have illness just too deeply entrenched in the body -- like much is made about all the people who try intention/meditation/whatever and get better but what about all the others who tried it and died?... , or it doesn't work for everybody?... or (my suspicion) that the fears & negativity I can't help but have are way more powerful?, cuz I can say for sure that when there's major stressor I get physically worse, but positivity never has that or any affect. then again i'm now in for fibro mess but when matia helped my bladder few yrs ago i had lots of fears/negativity, can't say i really believed it'd work, but i still got better despite it.
So every time people talk about this stuff, the power of belief and everything, it stirs up all my frustrations.

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selichan

Hi rocket,
I couldn't help and wonder the same many times, and especially in the beginning of all my IC symptoms. I tried to use creative visualization to get rid of my symptoms. Obviously, it wasn't as simple or needed more dedication. But I still believe maybe thoughts need just as much discipline as we put in our diet and commitment to healing. I am positive that negative thoughts like anxiety, anger, sadness over time accumulates and turn our body into toxic, acidic environmen. And even though the effects of positive thinking may not visible right away, they help greatly coping with pain.  Maybe without us realizing, they are making things right in the background and without much recognition. Those are just my thougthts of course, but as I read more about chinese philosphy and indian ayurveda, I find out it interesting that they don't separate physical and mind toxicity (negative thoughts). I am not sure, but i sure hope there is some energy force working to get us better :)

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deir

Rocket- I hear you!
 
Blondy and others- I have said this before but the only thing that has helped me is the 12 step model adapted from AA. I go to Al Anon and ACoA meetings and I practice the steps and read the literature every day. I don't have time to elaborate right now but I basically replace alcohol with IC and it has helped me SO MUCH!!

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rocket

....even if negative thoughts & fears & doubts are harmful, I feel like there's only so much they can be controlled in me.... i've been severely sick and homebound for a long time and it takes such a tremendous -beyond words- mental emotional toll that it's simply not realistic nor human to not lose your mind a bit and have the negative thoughts and fears and doubts?... on one hand i feel -or hope- that the fact that i'm still in it at all or stay neutral half the time is miraculous enough after all this time... and i think my nervous system is particularly sensitive too... So if i'm trying to control things that maybe are not so much physiologically under my control it'd be a shame to get down on myself about it or keep trying in vain.

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blondy

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blondy

I am just touching the surface of Energy of Believe philosophy, so I don't want to give anyone an impression that I gave up on it. The theory makes sense. I just need to move into the next step and start applying it, didn't get the memo on 'how to', but will keep looking for it.
I do believe now that IC is  also an emotional dis-balance condition.
What seems to bring some relieve for me is to completely release everything that may bother me (including the visitor whose name starts with 'I' ) while surrounding myself with  totally positive environment.  The positive energy overcomes negative feelings and pain as long as I am IN that environment. That is why I like going to yoga studio or gym, walk, reach out to a positive friend, listening to classical music (sometimes that, too, becomes too much). In order to be in THAT environment, I have to separate myself from ordinary affairs and bring myself to a new state where there is no time, hurry, ego, the big 'I', anything material. I feel that positive energy flowing and the pain does go away. Considering that I feel pretty crappy the moment I wake up (first thing I feel is my bladder :( and say 'oh, no, not again), just to get going is a big daily task. I suspect if I was able to be doing something 'good' for myself all day long, the pain would leave, at least for the time of the activity. But I have to go out of my way to reach there, which is quiet a task to accomplish.
It appears that there is no easy way to leave IC behind. It became more involved than just taking pills and implementing a healthy lifestyle, the impression I had in the beginning.
Deir, I will look into the AA fundamentals, yet another theory to become familiar with. Sometimes, I feel that I know more about dealing with chronic pain than some counselors I met, at least theoretically. :)
I am definitely a new being, not the same person I was. Sometimes, I have to be careful not to feel like crazy, there are so many changes. Those changes that stay become new believes, others are short lived, but they consume time and energy, precious commodities in most people's lives. It would be nice to know the difference right from the beginning. But for some reason one has to have all those experiences; growing process is in progress.