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Hi,
I have two food questions...
1. does anyone know if there is any kind of chicken broth that someone on list 1 could eat? Even the most "all natural" ones with the least ingredients in them still have some cane sweetener and tumeric. just wondering if maybe i am missing a brand that would be acceptable.
2. I eat egg white omelettes with veggies every morning so i go through a TON of eggs every week. My husband suggested I get the liquid egg whites which I did, but wanted to just be sure there is no rule against eating those. there are no other ingredients listed on the carton but "liquid egg whites," but i know sometimes there are things about these products that I may not be aware of (like the whole loose powder versus capsule thing with the probiotics). does anyone know if these are okay to eat on the diet? also, is it okay that i eat only the egg whites? are we supposed to be eating the whole egg for any reason?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Broth and egg whites
I've not been able to find any commercial chicken broth which doesn't have some forbidden ingredient. I guess the only thing is to make it yourself (laborious I know).Why are u not eating the egg yolks?
well, there goes that idea! i
well, there goes that idea! i was thinking chicken and rice soup, but don't know if i'm up for making my own chicken broth. i'm not much of a chef... but who knows. i will see if the internet has any guidance :)as for the egg whites, i go that route because of the cholesterol. i have heard matia talk about how people's cholesterol often goes down on the diet despite the nature of some of the foods, but, i can't help but feel like eating three eggs (with yolks) every single day would end up costing me on the cholesterol front - especially with the amount of butter i now consume. Butter is like my one indulgence. I eat it on spelt toast or rice cakes for snacks and/or dessert - yes, i actually consider that dessert at this point :) - all the time. do you generally eat the whole egg when you eat eggs? what are your thoughts?
Broth and egg whites
I also have rice cakes as a dessert! Its odd isn't it. I will be adding avocado soon so will have something to put on my rice cakes. I can see the worry over the eggs. I don't have butter so I'm not worrying about cholesterol, I have 2 eggs a day usually, I eat the whole egg. Artichoke lowers cholesterol, its a List 2 veg - I guess ur on List 1? I'm slowly introducing List 2 stuff. I love the tinned artichoke hearts but they are usually in citric acid etc tho I have rinsed them and boiled them to get rid of it, I'm not confident they are ok. Cooking artichoke yourself is not easy, I'm no chef either! and they are very bitter. I wonder if its worth u having a cholesterol test to see what your level is?
Artichokes
I eat artichokes all the time and i have since day one. They are easy if you invest in a pressure cooker well worth the money. You can do lots of nice tender meats in the pressure cooker too. It speeds up the time very fast.
the artichoke I take one whole fresh artichoke cut it in half. Cut the stem off. If you get a good fresh one it should be meaty not bitter. make sure it is not soft when you pick it.
when you cut it in half you should see some prickily part next to the heart. I take a knife and scoope this out before cooking.
Give it a rince so that there is no sand.
place fill the pressure cooker about 1 cup of water just enough so there is about a 1/2 inch of water .
place the artichokes cut side up and start your cooker.
put it on high when the rocker starts then time it at 10 min. If you have baby ones I would try them at 6 min. I don't really get the baby ones so I am not exaxct on that time.
When they are done rince the cooker off with cold water till the pressure releases.
i put a pad of butter in place where i cut out the thistle prickly parts and salt the whole thing. I eat the leaves one by one and then the hearts. YOu can just use the hearts if you want to make things with but it will not taste the same as the ones in the marinated jars. YOu need the lemon or lime to add to them and this would be a latter stage. Artichokes are very filling and a great night time snack to not fill up on carbs.
chicken broth
I use health valley it does have some spices you might have to ask Matia about but they never seemed to bother me. You can order them through there web site as well if you can't find them at the store. Order things online it's great. DO a search for your broth if you don't want to make it I am sure you will find a plane one. http://healthvalley.elsstore.com/view/product/?id=33067&cid=816
I think swason makes an plane organic one It might have garlic in it not sure. You really have to look at all the different ones of the differnt brands because some of them the low fat or low sodium ones will have different ingreedients then the others.
cholesterol
When I was on list 1, I ate eggs every morning as it was one of the only things I could eat and I worried about my cholesterol too. I had a cholesterol test sometime during this period and my cholesterol levels were normal. They were actually lower than when I had started with Matia.Making your own broth is very simple. You just need some chicken bones, and whatever vegetables you can tolerate like onions, celery, carrots.... I bet there are plenty of recipes on the internet. You just let it simmer for a couple of hours and you end up with a super tasty broth, you'll be surprised! I usually make a large batch and then freeze the leftovers in 4 cup proportions to use later. Carol
You can do it!
Making your own chicken broth isn't as hard as you might think. You put a few things in a pot and let it cook. Then you have both the broth and the chicken that you can eat. I eat 3 eggs a day. One for breakfast and two for lunch. I think that the yolks are the important protein part of the meal.
I have answers to both your questions...
1. 365 Organic (Whole Foods' brand) has vegetable broth in a carton. Only ingredients are: organic vegetable broth (purified water, vegetable broth concentrates of organic carrot, organic celery, organic onion), sea salt and organic onion powder. You can double check w/ Matia but I would think the carrot & onion would be ok; she might just say try it and see.
2. I would eat the egg yolks and worry less about the eggs and more about the butter (although even the butter I wouldn't worry too much about for now).... I've done a lot of health research, plus worked w/ a holistic nutritionist the last few years, and I've found a great deal of evidence to support that all fats are not created equal and all cholesterol is not bad. We need certain types & amounts of saturated fat, even cholesterol, but they get a bad rap b/c of the Twinkies, cookies, etc. that really have no nutritive value and we shouldn't be eating anyway, whereas w/ something like eggs they are nutritious on multiple levels. As for conversion to cholesterol, I kept reading of people with low or normal cholesterol levels dropping dead of heart issues, and the connection between not having enough "heart healthy" fat. You can read a lot more on this at lifeextension.org.... I've found them a good resource. I ate 1/day before Matia's program, 2/day now to fill me up more, and believe it's nothing to be worried about. And as for the butter, I wouldn't even worry about that, b/c you're mostly doing it now (as I'd guess some-many of us are) b/c of the restricted diet. Once we can eat more, we won't need to pile on the butter b/c we'll have more flavor, more choices, less reason to use it.
broth and eggs
Ok, here is my two cents. I have been slow with the diet and on it for quite some time. In the beginning I was eating three whole eggs every morning, whoa!! Then I switched to two. Then I had a cholesterol check and went down to one whole egg plus two whites. That seems to work for me, i haven't had my cholesterol checked since doing that though. What I mean is, I tried all whites and blech! It just didn't have any, I don't know. . . substance to it. I was too hungry. I often hard boil eggs and cut them in half, remove the yolks out of two and keep it in one. (I want to try mixing cut up hard boiled egg with some mashed avocado and olive oil for 'mayonaise' and maybe a little chopped celery and some cheese on spelt bread for an egg salad sandwhich) There seems to be a lot of back and forth on the egg yolk issue; I think one a day is ok unless my cholesterol shows otherwise. And avocadoes, if you can have them, are full of good fats that are supposed to lower cholesterol.As far as chicken broth, wow, it would be so nice to find some I could eat! They all have spices or onions and I just don't tolerate that. I make my own soup. Even though it is time consuming, it last for days and then I don't have to cook for a while. I was intimidated by this b/c I'm not much of a chef either but here is what I do:I take my biggest pot and put some spring water in there. then I take two pckgs of chicken thighs (about 5 pieces per pckg) and rip the bulk of the skin off. easier to do if it is still a bit frozen. lay all these pieces in the bottom of the pot. water rises as you add pieces. I usually add a couple extra chicken legs, just for a little xtra meat. then I pour some spring water in a cup (I"m picky about holding a water jug over raw meat with possible splashing) and fill the pot to about 1 - 2 inches from the top. Make sure you've got a tall, wide pot. Put a lid on, turn burner on high, get it boiling, turn down and boil/simmer for one hour. Then I remove all the meat, pour the broth through a strainer, put broth in fridge overnight (there will be a layer of fat on top the next morning, easy to skim off with a spoon) I cut up all the meat into bit sized pieces. Next day I cook 3/4 c rice ( you can use more or less) and begin reheating the broth. I add the cut up chicken, cooked rice, and I cut up an entire head of celery and 1-2 large heads of brocoli. I add this in increments as it will overflow my pot till it cooks down a little. I keep stirring and lifting the spoon to see what I need more off. I add the vegies raw so they are simmering in the soup and all the nutrients will stay in the broth. I dont' let it simmer or cook overlong; this keeps the vegies firmer and we like it that way; plus with freezing and re heating the vegies will get even softer. I freeze leftovers after a few days. I have large glass pyrex bowls with lids, this works great for storing broth overnight and then the soup later. but several smaller bowls will work too. yes, it is a lot of work but it is worth it and then you get a few days off from cooking which is always nice.Or another thing you can do if you want a little broth--strain and save the drippings from a whole chicken if you roast one in the oven. This is greasier thoughoh yes, and if you want to consume less butter: try drizzling olive oil on your bread and put some mashed avocado on there as well
what kind of butter is ok to
what kind of butter is ok to use? and what kind of rice does everyone eat? i was eating uncle bens brown rice, but the ingredients says canolia oil/sunflower oil and im not sure if thats ok?
butter/rice
Torey:
I use organic butter. I also use a brown basmatti rice which is just rice no other ingredients. I prefer this brown rice over others because of the flavour.
Thank you...
to all of you for these awesome posts. Your encouragement goes a long way. I think I am actually going to try making my own chicken broth! This may not sound like a big deal to you, but before starting with Matia, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, cereal and pasta were my staples. now i'm baking my own spelt bread every week, cooking three meals a day (albeit simple ones) and about to embark on making my own chicken soup! didn't even know i had it in me :) I will let you know how it turns out. Thanks again.
Chicken Soup & Stock Recipes
Found a great recipe @ www.naturalnews.com/025277.html which gives details of the health benefits of the ingredients. Obviously have to leave out any ingredients not suitable for whichever List you are on.Also a recipe for chicken stock @ www.naturalnews.com/022973.html