I have been on list 3 about a year now. It's been a good year, not completely well yet, still dealing with some health issues and bladder symptoms. I am ok with the diet list, and recently got ok'ed to try additional nuts and fruits. Very exciting :) This past year, seems like Matia focused more on my protocoal, I can finally take 1 full bif, and now taking 1/2 bulgaricum as well, along with Juice plus, vit D and cod liver oil. I rather focus on the herbs than food, however, since it kind of goes hand in hand... I was wondering how long were you on list 3 before moving up to 4 then finally 5? Was your bladder and health symptom free when you did? Seems like this stage was the longest for me, not sure what to expect going forward, would love to hear from those of you in higher lists. Thank you!