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Hey all!
I am dealing with some pretty aggravating dieoff at present. it is blowing me away because it is really the first time I have had issues with stomach and digestion in treatment. Matia always asks me at our appointments - any nausea or stomach issues? and I could say on occasion that my digestion was off from time to time but NEVER like this. I am bloated with gas and anytime I eat I feel like I am struggling to keep it down. It really feels like there is nothing to break it down- and its just a lump of food in my belly. I got gas cramps and now my bowels are all kinds of messed up. But what is werid is that along side crazy bowel movements last night- I had a major anxiety attack along side all this stomach stuff. It passed after a few hours but I was kind of facinated in the midst of my heart pounding feeling out of control and dizzy like WHOA! I have not had one of those since early treatment and not even then was it very severe. This one took me waaaaaaaay back to when alot of my systemic yeast issues began as a child.I remember feeling nauseaous and getting anxiety attacks and yeast infections. That was sort of illuminating- like wow maybe this treatment is touching the imbalence core when it all began? My bladder had been better although I had a raging yeast infection the other day out of nowhere and my vv feels sensitive. I have never had problem motivating to take my probiotics and it is really a challenge for me right now.What do you do in this situation- I feel super helpless navigating this part of treatment right now. Before treatment I had problems with my stomach all the time and I ate ginger root compulsively which no doubt was toooooo hot for my bladder to take all the time. I'm sure I just to suck it up and deal with it but when you are having a hard time eating even though you can feel how empty your stomach is and how much your body needs food but eating is appealing as consuming worms then I don't know what to do. are probiotics too "cold" for bad digestion? sorry for the complaints guys- this is just really messing with me. I wish my appetite would come back! any thoughts or guidance or empathy on going through this and how you handled it would be greatly appreciated. love!
Mary
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mary i can totally relate what ur gng thru...i am tryin to come off my klonipin prscp anti anxiety meds which are poison...and i am feelin very poorly....anxiety,,tired,,constant knotch in my stomach and forcing myself to eat atleast one meal a day...i feel like a loner...i dnt want to talk to anyone but my family..cause i feel soo helpless...but we can get thru this...we can look at this like another part of treatment in our way to get better....i personally never had anxiety until i had my son...but we all kno anxiety and IC go hand in hand..are u on RP or siberian ginseng?...they are good for anxiety...try meditation music and just puttin ur hands on ur areas of where u feel the anxiety..and breathe in and out...i wish i had the magic answer cause it would help soo many of us...ur a strong person w/alot of love and wisdom and this too shall pass...a very wonderful friend told me..."give urself a break"...this is hard...everything about ic is hard...good advice..xxoo
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Mary I am so sorry. I know
Mary I am so sorry. I know that feeling all too well. I have spent many times even having a BM gives that rush of toxins and anxiety I sweat and shake. I know longer have this to this degree but still have major gas bloating sometimes nausia. i still have anxiety but much better. I have done ginger tea in the past on accasion Matia said it was ok. I also have used fennel seed I have made a tea out of it and also cooked with it. When I cook with it I put the seeds in a pan dry for a few seconds till they start to give the aroma off. Then i put them in a pestle and grind them and put them back into the food as I cook this makes them work and taste better. I found that buying crushed fennel powder doesn't work the same or taste the same. YOu might ask Matia if you can do this. it helps for the gas and nausia but nothing seems to help my constipation. I thinK i just have WAY too much yeast and I have to either kill more or smother more. I prefer to smother but my urethra seems to like the killing better. :(
sending healing thought your way I will pray for you
Nicole
Honeybee I can totally relate
Honeybee I can totally relate to what you are goping through at this time. I am having such terrble stomache problems which agrivates my bladder. I don't know what I can eat as it seems everything agrivates the stomache. I am afraid to take supplements as they seem to cause burning. I am currently on 4 drops a day of SF722. I am going for some testing this week. Don't know if this will enlighten me at all but willing to do anything. I have in the past had stomache issues that have waxed and waned. Matia did tell me before I could have fennel tea so maybe that is worth a try. I feel like I am going backwards in terms of being able to eat more foods. I am terying low oxalate, no gluten and of course Matia's list but doesn't leave much to eat. I too need some encouragement and ideas. On the bright side I am having better sleep in fact I had three days this week with getting up only once and a day where I felt almost normal with no symptoms of bladder or stomache. Now stomache is acting up again and I just can't figure it out which aggrivates me.
Guts & Brains
I think in some people and/or in some phases of treatment the probiotics can create major stomach issues. Months ago I had it similar, with several hours each morning of bad cramping, gas, etc. The only way it stopped for me was going way down on the probiotics - disappointing for me to "lose" that progress but there seemed no other way. That's fascinating about the anxiety attack corresponding with the stomach issue; I am sure it's connected.
Unlike you I did not have yeast issues in childhood, at least not symptomatically apparent, but b/c of my environment I was anxious all the time and had corresponding stomach in knots/digestive discomfort, and also was nauseous a lot though that was probably more from not being fed. Anxiety and stomach issues must be more connected than people realize, think of all those nerve cells in the gut & how people say the "brain in the gut." I keep thinking of the success stories that said once they were balanced the anxiety & other "psychological" issues magically disappeared. I can't wait!
I'm sorry you're suffering like this... of course it's messing with you, it's awful to go through. Gut issues stink (no pun intended) and anxiety is a b*tch.
thanks!
Thank you so much to everyone who commented. It means everything to understand its normal to struggle with the probiotics. Usually they help me with digestion but it was such a abrupt break for me that I didn't expect it in that particular area- but then again nothing should surprise me. It is totally normal to experience out of the blue symptoms. Things are better- fennel and chamomile tea was a life saver- I'm feeling much better in my nerves and hadve not had a repeat episode of the anxiety attack. Im on a different combo of probiotics now and that's been helpful. Not 100% but i'm sort of functional in digesting and have a increase in appetite and can eat food again. YAAAY! I was bummed to have to back down from the probiotics a bit but I am at the same time determined to go at the right pace. You have to respect what your body can tolerate and you also have to be able to push through some rough times- finding that balence is a challeng!Your kind words advice and comfort are wonderful. all my Best- Mary
honeybee
Hi Honeybee, Matia has taken me on & off probiotics numerous times and she's always assured me that it's totally normal. In my first couple of years of treatment, I would get zinged out by the probiotics, I would have trouble sleeping at night and lots of anxiety issues. Matia would take me off them for a little while and then my body would let her know it was ready to add them back again. Try not to view this change as a setback, because it really isn't one. Your body continues to heal and get stronger every day you are in treatment. Carol