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I just read an interesting post from Sarah C who has discovered that her gut and bladder are interrelated and when her gut acts up so does her bladder. Does anyone else have comments about this?
I am a recovering bulemic (have not purged for 26 years but still have issues with food and on this protocol, my portions are too big.) Dr. B says it will get easier as my body comes more in balance but this is a long standing problem. I think my recovery would go faster if I could balance my portions better and not get so full.
I would appreciate any insights that people have about this. I am going to redouble my efforts. Thank you all!
I am the same
as Sarah C. My bladder and gut are very related. For example, when I messed up my bladder recently, I found that food which I had tolerated beforehand, I no longer could tolerate. My gut would give me such pain. So I had to backtrack in food, let my bladder heal as well as my gut while reverting back to many list 1 and 2 foods. (I am on list 3.) I have that bloated feeling of being full now, too, which I had finally gotten rid of. So I suspect it is all definitely interrelated. Take care, Bonnie!
I completely agree with
I completely agree with this!
If for some reason I cannot get to a toilet and need to hold in my urine, I begin to get cramps in my stomach which get worse the longer I hold it.. after urination, the cramps disappear within 15 minutes.
And if I eat something that doesn't sit well in my stomach and my IBS starts acting up, my bladder will definitely feel it the next time I need to urinate.
Funny how it's all connected!
ooh hello, v exciting to be
ooh hello, v exciting to be the inspiration here! (or not - you know what I mean!)
I think this is the last piece of the puzzle for me. Saturday, no BM, perfect day. Sunday, normal BM, perfect day. Today, perfect up to 10am, then diarrhoea - and since then I've had the itching/tickling/congested feeling in my pelvic floor muscles again, plus some bloating and gas (mmm-mm!). Dr B said that it's to do with the lymph nodes around the pelvis (there are loads apparently). The compromised gut wall means that the crap hits your lymphatic system after a BM, and that's why all the burning/itching etc. I guess the positive is a) this seems to be my only trigger now, touch wood and b) I don't feel the problems in my bladder anymore; that seems to have healed. It's so annoying though! Makes me dread BMs as I know what the fallout will be! Hoping this will reseolve in time too. On we go!!
our guts
As I've gotten better and my bladder is not as touchy, it's very clear that the gut impacts the bladder so much. I agree with everything everyone has said- and SarahC thanks for the lymphatic system explanation. Very interesting. I always feel like there is so much to discuss with Matia, and I'd like to know more of why certain symptoms happen, so it's helpful to get answers from each other if we haven't remembered or had time to ask during an appointment.
Bonnie, as I think I mentioned before to you on here, I also have a long eating disorder history and Matia thinks that's a big reason why I struggle with IC now. Our poor systems need so much love! I really find that the diet helps me with my wierd eating patterns a lot, but I've been eating like this for almost 3 years now (long before I saw Matia) so I've grown quite accustomed to it, but it was hard at first. I'm always impressed with the variety of food combinations and recipes that people post on here. I find that sticking to really simple meals (steamed/sauteed veg and meat) keeps me on an even keel and doesn't trigger any eating disorder feelings. Of course, everyone is different. Best wishes in establishing a good routine for you!
Foods- as related to gut and IC
Hi Ladies, Great thoughts on here-- as always! I am on list three and have been for awhile now. I find that when I have a good span, I am able to the end of list three foods without any problems. However, when I hit a rough patch, I reduce my food list to my known "safe" foods. BUT during a rough patch, I cannot eat those foods that I had begun to include during my good span. Gosh, I hope this makes sense because I am starting to feel a little circular in my thinking.... I guess what I am saying is.... do any of you have food regressions along with your bladder regressions?
Dr. B has been wonderfully supportive throughout all my latest emails. I am working not getting stuck on a time table. I got it in my head that I should be at this point by this time and that point by that time.... yikes! That is a little defeating head trick I wasn't prepared for. Have some of you in treatment longer than a year still think about how long healing will take? In reality, I think I don't really care if it's two years, three or even four... as long as I DO get my life back;)
Sarah- Wow! Perfect days!? Congratulations!
Katie
Hi Katie
It probably wasn't until three months ago that I wondered when the miraculous healing would occur. I am tired, exhaused, and just plain sick of it all. Sorry, not very uplifting. On my way home from work today, in my closed car, I'm gonna scream as loud as I can. I think my voice has just mended enough from the last time that I did this......(I did feel better afterwards )
Denise, I'm sorry you're
Denise,
I'm sorry you're not where you want to be right now. This process is so hard!
I know what you mean about being tired and exhausted. Even though my bladder and vaginal symptoms are improving everyday, I get tired easily. I think my body is working hard to heal and it needs rest. Taking time to enjoy the little things in life really helps me to keep my spirits up. I like to do "crafty" things and spend time with my family.
I'm not as productive everyday as I would like to be, but I look at back at where I was a few months ago and how much more capable I am now. I know there will be bumps in the road, but the road leads to healing! Before I started treatment with Matia, I was tired all the time because of IC and the drugs I was on. Now my tiredness has a purpose (healing), not just a reason (IC and drugs).
Lisa
Lol... A good scream sounds
Lol... A good scream sounds VERY therapeutic right now! I am going to join you in spirit. I know I am certainly better now than I was a year ago..... I am being impatient and dealing with a good amount of ANGER. I theoretically know that these emotions are also part of the "process" but I am just tired of being rational right now. The good news is that the cold is on its way out and my bladder feels better. Let's hope this is the beginning of an up swing. I would like that;)