Reaching out from Massachusetts....

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Hi Guys-

I just want to say "Hello" and introduce myself.  My name is Shauna, and I have been visiting this site daily for several months since my IC diagnosis in July 2012.  I actually just finished writing a soul-baring introduction with several extremely wordy, in-depth questions, but it got deleted as I tried to post it, so for now, I'll keep it short and sweet until I can figure out if this will go through or not. 

Upon diagnosis, my uro referred me to the "other" IC website, which I found thoroughly depressing, and it sent me even deeper into the abyss of grief, mourning and panic that I already felt over this incredibly crappy illness.  Luckily (?!), my computer was suddenly denied access to their server after several attempts at doing a search on Matia's treatments....Censorship?  I don't know, but needless to say, it felt like a non-coincidence, and I never looked back.  This site, and the wonderful people here,have been my main support throughout this time. 

My husband and I are seriously considering heading out to LA to begin treatment this spring.  I feel certain that healing is possible this way.

Just a few quick q's before signing off....

1)  Could anybody explain the difference between remission, punky but manageable neutral, and flare?   Eg:  Is there any territory between the two? 

My IC started out *horribly* with 6 weeks of literal 24/7 pain beyond description, 30-40x/day frequency, sickening clitoral buzzing like a high-pitched vibrator that made me nauseous with anxiety, and visible blood in my urine.  After beginning the diet list 1 foods, and (I sheepishly admit) adding acidophilus and bifido factor, (sadly without ANY die-off fanfare) as well as adding eleuthero for immune boosting, and, upon the advice of a local acupuncturist , pre-packaged Liu Wei di Huang Wan, I started to improve a lot, lot, lot.   I have been in a decent place now since mid-October, but am far from fine, still have lots of sharp bladder pains, clitoral twinges, burning vulva, but there are times when I feel ok, too, and am able to actually have fun.  My frequency is down to 7-8 times a day, but that is only because I refuse to give in knowing that it's all a mindgame...Often my bladder itself feels like it wants to come out, not unlike the urge to push out your baby when the time comes.....I feel like giving into the urge to push it out as though some relief could be obtained by doing this...Does this resonate with anyone? 

I guess my question is this:   Given that the onset was so dramaticaly horrible, should I consider this a period of comparative remission despite daily mild/moderate pain?  Or.... Is this just a continuation, albeit much milder, of the same event?  I don't really know what difference it makes, but I am such an information junkie that I'd feel better if I could at least get a handle on the semantics of the illness that has taken over my life....

A second question is this:   I have noticed that a lot of the people who seem to have made such amazing progress started with a baseline lifestyle that was kind of typical and had lots of room for improvement. There is so much talk about imbalance, but I never felt even slightly imbalanced before this sickness came out and kicked me in the head, or the crotch, so to speak.  I am happily married, homeschool my 3 incredibly nice, fun boys, have a strong sense of community, did yoga 4x/week, and eat 100% whole, organic foods. Has anyone had equally dramatic progress in treatment despite already living a really clean lifestyle?  I just feel like foodwise, there isn't really that much to tweak, besides cutting out my beloved Thai foods....Btw, any word why Thai is so verboten?  I know coconut and sugar are nyet, but barring these, what about fish sauce and lemon grass?  My husband is Cambodian, and we really lean that direction in cooking/eating, so it would be *really* reassuring to know that there is fish sauce in my future...Odd, I know, but totally a major point of loss for me.... :(

Once again, this has turned ridiculously long, but I have saved up so much over these months, and cannot wait to become a part of such a caring, articulate, well-informed, and actually really fun people who totally understand what it feels like to deal with this day in and day out, (especially the fear of symptom progression/relapse....)

I'm afraid this is only the tip of the iceburg in terms of questions, but it'll have to do for now.....Take care~ Shauna

 

 

 

 

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Yikes.....I apologize for not double-spacing between paragraphs...It looks terrible and I can't seem to figure out how to edit a post...Sorry, next time!

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You are lucky you found this website not too long after diagnosis. I didn't dare to even conceivably think about recovering from IC. All urologists I visited were clear, there is NO cure, and a lot of pain associated with this condition. Having experiencing real pain after instillations, I started loosing hope. When I found that other site, that pretty much finished me. I was depressed for months. Speaking of censorship, it is natzy like on that site. I didn't like it. I never posted anything, but just reading others was pushing me deeper into the spiral of desperation and depression. It seems as if people were proud of how many medications they were taking or how many treatments/surgeries they endured.
Anyway, you are smart and lucky (?) that you came upon this treatment opportunity. I gained my life back with it. I am totally functional, although still with symptoms, but I keep pressing on. I am not in the workforce, which is my choice. I am extra protective of my newly gained ability to enjoy and experience life. I truly never felt so happy and content. This treatment is a life changing event. For many people, I am one of them, it is a life saving event. I knew I could not continue with 'treatments' I was given and no hope in sight. Any way, it took me long time to analyze the pieces laying in bed and come to the conclusion that I need to throw 'experts' opinion out of the window. I then reluctantly typed 'IC recovery' in the goodle search and there it was. Like you, I read posts for moths, then decided to give diet a try. After several months on diet and feeling better I got to the point where I was able to travel, I flew to LA, and the rest is history. 
I encourage you to keep reaching deep inside yourself and following your inner voice.

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blondy

I would not call your current state a remission, you still have symptoms. Symptom-free lifestyle is what you want. 
 

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Mimij67

Hi Shauna, welcome! (Select "all" and "copy" all of your posts before you hit the send button and you will not lose any content)
Blondy, GREAT post! Thank you for sharing!
I had IC for one month when I found Dr. B so I feel very lucky. Within 6 weeks I was in LA to see her. That "other" website nearly crushed me. I NEVER go there now. Never. This is a life-alterning treatment. No more refined sugar or alchohol and VERY minimal after treatment. I understand why some people try to get by with the western medications. I personally have always had great results with chinese medicine (although probably did not stick with it long enough in the past, or else maybe I would not be so imbalanced now!)
When you go to meet Dr. B, you will be surprised at the things that triggered your IC. I knew antibiotics were part of it, but there were many other things that I did NOT realize were contributing factors. It is not all diet and alcohol-related. I really recommend you read Dr. B's dissertation. Twice if need be! (I had to re-read parts of it). Her thinking continues to evolve as she works with more IC patients. She is a true gift. I am only 3 months into treatment but am seeing some interesting changes in my body, and have had a few VERY low symptom days already so as of now I am feeling pretty encouraged. The changes you make on this protocol will serve you and your family for the rest of your life. I would come as soon as you can!

If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.

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Mimij67

Shauna, check with Dr. B. The only challenge with Thai would be that you will want to minimize soy, sugar, peanuts and coconut after treatment. These are not good for someone with a delicate digestive system and can contribute to imbalances. My sister is a CHEF at a famous Vietnamese restaurant. I am already combing through those recipes and also thinking about indian food and how to tweak it after treatment. As long as you mostly enjoy Thai at home after treatment, you will be able to control for sugar and soy and peanuts, I am sure Dr. B will allow after treatment. You will just have to be mindful. I doubt she would have any problems with lemon grass and fish sauce (sugar-free) AFTER treatment.

If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.

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CO

Hi Shauna!
I also read posts for months and now happy to be in treatment with Dr. B since the end of October. I know how you feel, reasoning your life has been pretty healthy. I never smoked, ever. Very little alcohol, maybe two glasses of wine every two weeks. During the week i would eat low fat / lot of veg.
But....At the weekend alot of sugar! And also birth control pills, 9 years. After that a multivitamin to boost my fertility, which actually fed the yeast, the imbalance grew and around that time my problems started. Then a laparoscopy to check for endometriosis, as i had some pelvic pain, five days later IC!!
The combination of no sugar AT ALL and sticking to the diet, and taking the herbs, probiotics, that is what will work. So there will be changes in your life when you start with Dr. B and they will make a difference.
You are not in remission now, you are on the way to recovery because of some of the things you have done already. I was similar to you, did alot of work before i went out to Dr. B, which meant i could start on list 3 straight away. Go out to see her! I needed the encouragement from everyone here, and now am so glad i did fly, 11 hours, to see Dr. B.
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