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Hello!
I am a new patient of Matia and have just, just started my treatment. Finding her on the internet was close to miraculous after suffereing because of IC for almost 6 years and trying so many doctors (and pills!).
I am on list 1 right now and I thought it could be nice to share what we've been eating, perhaps we could give each other ideas with these delicious (but limited) foods :) I personnally don't eat meat but that's just me, I'm also allowed a little black coffee or black tea, which is very nice.

So I'll start :
Morning: 2 poached eggs on two toasted spelt bread slices (no yeast)
Lunch: Lettuce and red cabbage salad, topped with piece of cooked salmon (in butter and garlic powder) and 1 toast.
Supper: Lettuce and red cabbage salad topped with piece of Pangasius fish (cooked in butter and garlic powder), with 2 rice cakes.

I also would like to know if any of you make your own bread?
Hope you will join!

Take care,
ballerine

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icnot4me

Hi!
I eat eggs for breakfast too, I either hard boil them or make an omelet with scrambled eggs and frozen spinach. If spinach bothers your urethra, try frozen or cooked fresh brocoli chopped up. I eat a lot of avocado b/c of the fiber, calories and good fat. I am very thin. I usually eat it chopped with cucumber in a bowl, like a little salad. It is cool and refreshing. I also sometimes put slices of avocado on bread with olive oil, sometimes with a little melted cheese. You can even mash the avocado with oil and spread it on bread. I make my own muffins, using the recipe on Matia's site--the yogurt ones. If you don't tolerate yogurt leave it out and use extra water or egg. I recently started adding steamed, mashed yellow squash into my muffin mix. You could shred zuchinni and add that too, for some reason cook zuchinni gives me heartburn. Just some ideas for now.
icnot4me

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ballerine

Are you already on diet 2 icnot4me? I'm not allowed to eat avocado, spinach, cheese or yogurt yet. It would be great to start a diet 2 thread though, it is something I am looking forward to, believe me :) Although I am grateful for the diet 1 because I know I will get better on it.

Today:
Lunch: baked zucchini, shrimp sautéed in butter, galic powder and basil (I'm not allowed dill yet), rice crackers.
Snack: cucumber slices, rice crackers and a little coffee.

I've been thinking about the turkey sausages... and about trying meat again, maybe chicken and turkey. Even if my ideas are more flexible about eating meat, I'm still on the fence about it. It would make my life much easier when I travel, etc.
I wonder if I can find organic ground turkey in this area of the world! Hope so!

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icnot4me

I think we are all different. there are some foods you tolerate that I don't and vice versa. I cannot handle garlic, my whole body burns. Nor dill, or any other spice. Yogurt I only do ok on if it is in the muffin mix, not by itself. I am not officially on list two, I am still pretty sensitive to foods

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nrc123

I was really thin to begin with (and ate all the time), so I was looking for a little snack even in diet 1. I found that I could tolerate Triscuits(but only the original and only the ones made by Nabisco).

All that is in the original Nabisco cracker is wheat, soybean oil, salt, and monoglycerides. Note - that's a chemical so I ate these very sparingly (5 crackers at a time), but I found them very satisfying and filling.

Please check with Matia before you eat these. I didn't have them until I was more stable (toward the end of the diet 1 segment). I'm not advocating cheating, but I did well with these.

Also, in diet 1 I made a lot of soups. Zucchini soup, broccoli soup, etc. Those were life savers for me. Also, they go well poured over a bit of brown rice.

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ballerine

Hey NRC123, I'd be interested in knowing your recipe for brocoli soup! Could you please post it?

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emmarenee

I've only been on the diet for about 6 weeks but I am already feeling so much better. I will post some of my food ideas soon. What I was curious about was if anybody else had noticed that their sense of smell increased. I smell things now I've never noticed before. Why do you think this is?

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Honeybee

I quit smoking cigarettes about a year and a half ago and my sense of smell and taste has majorly expanded! and even more so since I've been in treatment! ( 2 months) - right now I feel ultra sensitive to smell- in fact my co-worker is burning a scented candle down the hall from my office and the smell is giving me a headache! I'm not sure what causes our senses to heighten- maybe our bodies are just able to work more efficiently without all preservatives and werid stuff in our food. I would be interested to know the answer too- but you are not imagining it. My senses are defiantley working on a higher level.

Mary

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emmarenee

Thanks for your reply Mary. I knew I wasn't going crazy. I was reading some success stories last night (there are so many it's taking a while to read through all of them) and found another reference to "intense" sense of smell. I think it must be our bodies (postive) reaction to the diet.

I started this diet about 9 weeks ago. It has helped me so much. I'm working on getting my daughter and myself out to see Matia but it looks like it won't happen until September.

I find reading the success stories so comforting. I usually end each day looking at the new posts and reading one or two stories. I am so thankful that I found this website and I'm looking forward to meeting Matia.

Good luck with your co-worker.
Tammy

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nicole

just an FYI soybeen oil is definatly not aloud. There is a great saltine recipie I had put in there during my early days of treatment when i could have more. It is really not hard to make.

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Honeybee

I've been a patient of Matia's for almost 3 weeks now.
The diet on list one has helped me out tremendously. I have followed this list 1 diet to the letter.
I've been eating some sort of combo of these items and I cook certain things in bulk like the veggies, potatoes and brown rice. (I been heating up the rice the following day in the toaster oven and I love how its texture is almost chewy/crunchy.)

Salad- spring mix
Brown rice- I prefer the short grain
some kind of meat- chicken, pork, beef, fish
cooked in regular olive oil/ garlic powder
yeast free spelt bread- toast
roasted red potatoes in olive oil
I use a bamboo steamer for my veggies and they come out really nice!
I steam broccoli and cauliflour
cabbage of all kinds- but I especially love red cabbage!
zuchinni/squash steamed/ sauted in some butter
eggs- non omega fed!
sea salt and garlic powder for seasoning
my plate is pretty darn colorful- and I feel totally nourished.
I eat the spelt toast for breakfast and the above meal for lunch and dinner.
Rice cakes- the Lundburg lightly salted kind are pretty good for snacks but they aren't that substantial. I go thru
tons of rice cakes but aside from being somewhat messy they are good for those times that I can't get home to cook right away. For travel for like a weekend trip or something its just a good idea to plan ahead. bring a cooler and pack foods with you. I notice that sometimes chinese restaturants offer a steamed veggie/ meat option. maybe omitting the carrots if your in the beginning. add little garlic powder and it would be fine. salads are a lifesaver.
celery, raw veggies for snacks
spelt bread- yeast free
Even though I have been eating alot of he same thing I'm surprised by how much I have enjoyed it. But still I look forward to list 2!

thank you everyone for your encouragement!

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janejones

I know this isn't the right thread but where is your mantra powered visualisation?
I would be interested.

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Kriste

I am also interested.

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Honeybee

It's coming! Hold on!
Please be patient I am working on getting this post ready. Cannot wait to share it everyone!
Mary

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janejones

Thanks. I will be patient. Sorry for breaking the thread! Won't do it again!

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Kriste

Hi All:

This is a great addition to the forum. I have just a quick note. I am on list 1 still. I was only having a problem with breakfast. Matia gave me a good idea. She suggested making breakfast sausages with ground turkey. I mix powdered garlic and dill, egg and a little spelt flour with the ground turkey. I then roll them into sausage shapes and cook them. They keep in the fridge for a few days or they can be frozen.

I would also like to know if anyone makes their own bread and if it is better than bought. I have to say that I am kind of sick of spelt bread.

Kriste

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NatalieL

I've been with Matia for almost a year and half. I recently graduated to list 3, but I'm happy to share my list 1 meals.
Some general list 1 suggestions that I have include:
1.) Get a salad spinner - It's a miracle time saver and so much more cost effective than pre-washed bagged salad. 2.) Splurge on Kirby Cucumbers - they are so much crispier and more flavorful than regular or English cucumbers 3.) Get a rice cooker.4.) Always keep some grilled chicken in the fridge -- my favorite are boneless, skinless thighs. They are fattier than chicken breasts, but extremely flavorful and they don't dry out as easily. 5.) Try adding lightly steamed or blanched vegetables to your salad. It makes them more satisfying .
When I started list 1 I could not tolerate spelt bread or garlic powder for a very long time. I was absolutely devastated by this. This is what I ate and how I coped:
Breakfast: Layer Finely chopped lettuce, kirby cucumbers,celery, savoy cabbage, raw zuchinni, raw or lightly blanched broccoli and cauliflower in a bowl. Drizzle a little olive oil over those. Microwave a potato, mash it up with some salt and olive oil and put it on top of the vegies. Make sunnyside up eggs (I usually use 3 egg whites and 1 yolk). Put the sunnyside up egg on top of the potato. Mix everything up (Kind of like BiBimbop). The egg and potato act as a nice binder. I know this breakfast sounds unorthodox, but it is so extremely delicious and satisfying. I still eat this for breakfast every morning and could not possibly start my day without it.
Lunch: Grilled boneless skinless chicken thighs, rice or a baked or mashed up potato with olive oil and salt, and a large salad. If I was using a mashed up potato I would mix everything together in a large bowl. Again, I know it sounds weird but trust me it is soooo much better that way.
Dinner: Repeat of Lunch, but I might substitute chicken with some steamed shrimp or a piece of steak or a turkey-veggie loaf (mix ground dark turkey - not the lean kind -- with chopped up vegetables, whatever seasoning you can use, a dollop of homemade mayo and bake at 350 for about an hour).

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jlopatka

Sometimes I would make lettuce wraps for lunch... use bibb lettuce as the "tortilla" sautee chicken and use as filling and then use rice noodles (you can cook them and then deep fry) use julienned cucumbers and carrots (when you are allowed)

Also, I would make zucchini fritters... From "Bills Food"
1 lb 2 oz zucchini grated
1/2 tsp sea salt
8 scallions (if allowed)
2 eggs
1/2 c. spelt flour
mix together and fry in pan

Yogurt sauce (if permitted)
mix yogurt, grated cucumber, dill and salt top the fritters

There are many great recipes in "bills food" an Australian chef based out of Sydney. I can't have all the ingredients and I substitute a lot of the pastas for rice pastas, but order it and take a look! Really easy. Also, Giada De Laurentiis from Everyday Italian has many easy recipes for meat, etc that can be adapted to the many levels of our diet.

From Everyday Pasta, she has a recipe for Gnocchi which are Italian potato dumplings. I can't have the Pecorino Romano cheeses, but I can have the Thyme Butter sauce and making the gnocchi is pretty easy.

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Kriste

Hi all:

I have just been given the okay to try list 2 this week. I have only tried two things, asparagus and swiss chard. The asparagus was fine but the swiss chard seems not to be. It is funny I am not as excited to try new foods as I thought I would. I have been doing okay the last couple of weeks and do not want to rock the boat. I am wondering if others have had the same fears? I am also wondering when people flared how long did it last? What foods seemed to bother others? I realize that this may be different for everyone.

Kristeen

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emmarenee

I can't remember which blog I found this mentioned but thank you! This is listed on the IAIC Gentle Products Guide for list 1. I ordered a case (my freezer in full) of 6. It is very exspensive, about $8.00 a loaf but worth every bite. It tastes like sourdough bread. I can eat toast, eggs on toast or french toast for breakfast. I ordered mine through my local co-op but you can also order directly from them online. Now I don't starve until lunch.

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emmarenee

Hello!
I am not a patient yet. I am working on getting my daughter and myself out to see Dr. Brizman in September. I have been following this diet for about 9 weeks now and I am feeling about 90% better. I have cystitis. This is what I have everyday.

* note-if you can have it

Morning: toast, toast with eggs or french toast.

Lunch: 2 spelt tortillas with scrambled eggs or fish & brown rice or potatoes *cheese & *garlic powder.

Dinner: 2 spelt tortillas with lean hamburger, chicken or lean pork & brown rice, steamed *chard or*kale and *avacado, *cheese & *garlic powder.

Side of broccoli and buttered *yellow squash and/ or *zuccinni.

Tacos are so versatile. You can mix all kinds of meats and veggies together. I am able to buy spelt tortillas but if you can't find them I have a very easy recipe.

Tammy

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Pink Lady

Hi Everyone,
I wanted to share that my husband found spelt flakes and kamut flakes. They look exactly like oatmeal, and are cooked the same way.
I can have this for breakfast (and of course I balance it off with protein) but it feels like having oatmeal again and it's great! I don't add anything to it, but down the road, I'll be excited to add milk and blueberries!!
I get it at Bulk Barn (in Canada) I don't know if the States has that chain or not.
Hope this helps make breakfast more exciting!
 
 

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IC-Hope

Also for breakfast "cereals," there's kamut hot cereal by Bob's Red Mill -- tastes really good, like cream of wheat.  Cooks in 10 min.

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flygirlsam

Organic kamut flakes cereal has fruit juice concentrate in it...was this approved by matia?Also, from another post, i asked matia about Applegate Farms roasted pre-sliced and vacuum sleaed turkey breast and she said ok, even though it has sodium lactate form beets.  Yay!   

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Pink Lady

Just to clarify, the kamut and spelt flakes I've been eating are just grains (I'm not sure that's the right term for them) but they are "raw." Just like unprocessed oatmeal, these flakes have to be cooked in water to make them edible. They aren't a particular cereal, and have no additives.
Hope that helps =)

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veryhappymom

Here is a site that has spelt flakes and kamut grain  http://www.purcellmountainfarms.com  Amazon sells Bob's Red Mill Organic Cereals.

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Melsvensen

I do not know if you have a whole foods by you, but mine has their own version of triscut crackers withouth the additives.  The only ingrediants are wheat and sea salt.

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nicole

wheat causes inflamation and is not added till list 4 I think she alows the spelt and kamut because there more mild. I wouldn't eat them on list one just because so much is going on at that stage.

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veryhappymom

You could make the saltine crackers on this site.  Also snack on rice cakes and Madhouse Munchies Potatoe Chips.

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Melsvensen

I made something tonight that I thought up and it was not bad!I did not do exact measurments, I just threw it together.1 to 2 cups cooked brown rice1 egghandful of fresh basilbrown rice flour- 1/2 to 1 cup..depending on how much you want.Sea salt - as much you like for tastePut all together in a bowl and mash with a potatoe masher until desired consistancy ( liked mine a little firm but mushy)made 4 round pancake sized balls and put them on a baking sheet baked at 375 for 20-30 minutes, depending on how crispy you like themthen I put a little more salt on when they were out of oven and put them in the the toaster oven to make them crispy before I eat them.

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deir

wanted to boost this really old post to help us newbies with ideas.
 
Here's one of mine- 
I put grilled chicken breast, celery or broccoli and a little bit of olive oil, salt and garlic powder in my mini food processor and chop it into basically a pate. You can spread this on rice cakes, rice crackers or whatever.

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Christine222

Do you use cooked broc. and celery? I saw your post on that other forum... I like how they ignored you!

deir's picture
deir

Hi Christine- Isn't that bizarre?
I think I used raw but I was thinking of trying to saute the celery in butter like for making stuffing. That is always a good flavor (ALthough you kind of need onion)

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Christine222

I was going to say something but it always makes me uncomfortable to comment over there so I just keep my mouth shut. Did you have your appt. yet with Matia?

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deir

I am going out there on Wednesday. I am so nervous and excited. It will be weird for me to leave my kids. My daughter is still nursing so it will be hard to leave! I am so nervous about the details- flight, airport, hotel etc. especially eating while away. I am so convinced that this is the right road for me though. Ia m so glad I am doing it now.
How are you?

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Christine222

I've only been on the supplemets 3 weeks so it's hard to tell but I feel pretty good. My discomfort is a 1 - 2 most days so I can't complain. I was only in LA alittle over one day. I brought hard boiled eggs with me so I would have something to eat if I couldn't find anything. There are a lot of grocery stores in the area. Are you going alone? And how long are you staying?

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porkchop87

Hey I have seen those spelt and kamut flakes at whole foods. They don't have any additives at all in them. So I wanted to ask people. I don't seem to do well with Sea Salt, I can't eat it without feeling majorly bloated. I am not sure why? I am using the Real Salt Brand. Also I don't do well with rice does anyone do better with Kamut than rice???? Or does the spelt flour do better rice? I am trying to find a carbohydrate that does not irritate me.  I have been afraid to try pacific bakery breads. Do most do well with those?
 
Also has anyone tried BUFFALO??!!! It is amazing!! So much better than regular ground beef and less fat too. I use it all the time for dinner.  Also one thing I have been doing that is amazing is if you have a grill  turn it on high and place all the veggies you can have with the spices you can have and wrap it up and place it on for 30 min. It turns out amazing and tastes so good.  It is better than anything I have ever eaten out, and then I make a buffalo burger out of ground buffalo.
 
Portia
 

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izambrano1

I haven't seen Matia yet. but I am very nervous.  I've been to many natural doctors that say they can help me but it ends up to be false.  I have had IC for 12 years and I had given up until I found this website.  I'm scared its just going to be a false hope for me.

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Kate

PLEASE... PLEASE.... make an appointment with Matia.  I have had IC for 25 years (1/2 of my life) and she is the ONLY person that really understands this disease and can help.  The journey may be long and hard but you will get there. 
Nancy

deir's picture
deir

I will have to try buffalo.
My favorite thing right now is grilling. All the meat tastes so much better and less boring!

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aberger

I recently learned to make mayonaise! And it's made the endless salads infitely better. Now I can have deviled eggs, or chicken salad, or spice up (figuratively) my turkey on spelt bread.
In a food processor, crack one egg and blend, then slowly add olive oil til it emulsifies. Add salt, garlic powder, or whatever herbs you can tolerate.
 
 

deir's picture
deir

Hey I always hated mayonaise but  at this point anything new sounds good! 

Christine222's picture
Christine222

I miss mayo! This sounds good but I kind of worry about using a raw egg.

deir's picture
deir

Any new veggie ideas for list one?
 
I'm needing some inspiration. I love red cabbage with brocollini but that gets boring too.
 
Is Brocoli Rabe ok for list 1?

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blondy

 
I just rediscovered phermented (cultured) cabbage. It can be made from red cabbage and you can do it yourself. It is super healthy and tastes great. It goes well with just about anything. I always put olive oil on it. If you buy it commercially, make sure it is not pasteurized because pausterurization kills good bacteria. If it is sold in large supermarket, most likely it is pasteurized. I buy mine from a small family owned organic store. It is a little pricey. That is why I am going to ferment it myself. I got preparation steps from my mother. It is super easy. You can add carrots and other veggies upon your diet needs.
 

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deir

Blondy- I absolutely LOVE fermented veggies  so I specifically asked about them at my appointment with Matia and she said- not now but later.  I'm sure it has to do with the high levels of probiotics. I was about to do the Body Ecology Diet which is full of naturally fermented food before i found Matia. Anyway- they are delicious but you might want to be careful.

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aearle

Hi Ballerine,
 
just wondering what kind of rice crackers you buy.
i am a new patient on list 1...
 
sincerely,
Mandy

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Mimij67

Hi Mandy!
My absolute fav are Suzies Whole Grain Thin Cakes. Since you are up in Canada I think you can order a case on Amazon. They are great for list one with some Kerrygold or other organic butter. Kerrygold is grassfed, widely available and my favorite. I like them because they are thin and dont crumble. On list 3 you can add almond or cashew butter or sometimes I spread a thin layer of each!
Let us know how your first visit goes!! I know you said you live in a small town but you can mail order everything from spelt flour to grassfed beef if need be!
xo
Mimi

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