I have been taking it for 11 days now.  I only take 3 a day and have not notice any difference.  I have never had a problem with loose bowels though, mine has always been constipation.  That is what I have now too, even taking 3 of these a day.

This is soo interesting because i'm the opposite!  I'm also tolerating the sf722, which is helping bladder and sinus issues which is great....but is also very constipating.  I'm trying everything to just make me go.  I usually don't have loose bowels so not sure if sf can do that, but am sure that must be uncomfortable!  Either way, going too much hurts and not going at all or very little hurts..... 

I take it with the omegas and with 5 drops of oil of Oregano too.

clueless...ur not alone....loli am not constipated either...i go like 2-3 x a day with all the brocolli i eat..however i can not find any relief in my bladder...

I never really saw a direct relationship between my bowls and the SF722. Now I have been on this quite a bit on and off with lots of combos. It makes me dizzy its a strong anti fungal. I normally feel awful on it but see a lot of junk come out so i force myself to go through it. Maybe your die off is happing all in your intestines so no matter what you just keep going that is my guess. For instance it seems that what ever problem you had as a child is your main die off for me I had lots of UTI and and seizures so now I have the headaches all the time. Lots of tingling it's going to my weak spots also my burning is taking a long time to improve and I appear to be always having cloudy smelly urine. I am constantly having discharge too. Now when I go on the SF this all kicks up 10 fold so if your normally having lots of BM's this would make me conclude your going to have the scoots for die off during the SF that is my take not sure if I am right or not.

I never really saw a direct relationship between my bowls and the SF722. Now I have been on this quite a bit on and off with lots of combos. It makes me dizzy its a strong anti fungal. I normally feel awful on it but see a lot of junk come out so i force myself to go through it. Maybe your die off is happing all in your intestines so no matter what you just keep going that is my guess. For instance it seems that what ever problem you had as a child is your main die off for me I had lots of UTI and and seizures so now I have the headaches all the time. Lots of tingling it's going to my weak spots also my burning is taking a long time to improve and I appear to be always having cloudy smelly urine. I am constantly having discharge too. Now when I go on the SF this all kicks up 10 fold so if your normally having lots of BM's this would make me conclude your going to have the scoots for die off during the SF that is my take not sure if I am right or not.

I'm one of the few who doesn't have constipation.  But after a while on m protocol I wasn't going as much, and when SF was started it got my bowels moving in a good way.  But when I was 6 mo's in, the increasing probiotics caused me the stomach issues you're talking about now. 

Hi allI was just put on SF for the first time a couple days ago and it gave me instant die off... stomach cramps, bowels definitely moving more... and then, i've noticed red bumps on my left cheek angling down towards my upper lip (a little on right cheek as well) and  in between my eyebrows and they seem to be getting worse. I haven't had super clear skin in treatment, issues off and on, but nothing terrible. I am starting to freak that this is going to turn into something bad and I honestly don't know how to handle acne. This is only day 3 on SF and I'm freaking a little. I'm also dizzy, have the first headache i've had in some time and just feel SOOOO out of it, like in la la land. Am i going crazy??? This seems so intense and i'm scared to keep taking it. You all seem to have some experience with SF... help needed!

I've been on 18 SF a day for a long time now, and have experienced breakouts in my face, exactly where you said. A Qi Gong healer told me it's along the stomach meridian, google meridians -it's interesting. They have now calmed down a little, after several months. I'm not saying this to discourage you!!! But since I also had extremely clear skin before, I had no idea how to deal with acne either and made some mistakes that now leave me with pretty bad scars to deal with. Visit my thread "Pimples UGH", Nicole and others have made good points and given me good advice. Breakouts have moved to my forehead, right above and in my eye brows. It's so weird, they are symetrical, so I look like I have been prepped for a star trek movie lol. Matia said it's the bladder that is detoxing, so as much as I hate the way it looks, breakouts are a good sign. Get some good non-pore-clogging makeup -mineral is working for me. Don't start buying into every cosmetic promise out there, they don't work because the stuff that is inside will come out anyway. Trust me, I spent way too much money and now have products to last me years. Lol. I've learned that natural things such as aloe vera gel, honey, jojoba oil are just as effective... (that is, not so effective while you are detoxing)Keep your hands off of your face, no playing around -hello scars!!And keep your head up high, you are still the beautiful and wonderful person you are inside, this is just temporary.... It will calm down!! Hopefully, tons faster than it did for me. I wish it for you :-)

I figured I was on the low end of how many sf's I was taking... but 18! Thats a lot! Did you notice a big change in your bladder taking that many ballerina?

I unfortunately didn't notice a huge improvement in my bladder...I wish!Just noticed a huge change in my face, and not the best one...

I've been on 12 SF a day for at least 3 months now.  I have loose stools recently (always had constipation) but I'm not sure if it's from an increase in Ear or from the SF.  I haven't had any face breakouts, however.  My usual die off reaction is once a week I have some bad nausea/dizziness and feel like I may have food poisoning for a few hours, and then it passes. I normally have to just lie down and rest and get through it.  I also get a headache once or twice a week on the SF.  Mild, though, compared to the headaches I suffered from for years in my unhealthy past.  

has anyone NOT had major die off from SF? i am now up to 16 sf and 4 goldenseale per day. in the past, i could barely tolerate 3 sf per day, but as i said in a previous post, i was able to push through this last time we tried and am now tolerating it pretty well. but, at this point, i almost feel like i'm taking nothing. my vv still feels pretty much the same - not worse - not better. i'm happy that i am now able to tolerate it - seems like that must be significant. BUT, as anyone who as ever read my posts knows, i am very, very, very skeptical that any gut imblanace i have has anything to do wtih my pain. yes, i have seen that certain things - like the sf in the past - have made my syptoms worse, so i try to tell myself there is a connection. but at this point i'm taking 20 pills worth of major cleansers everyday and am barely feeling any difference at all in my pain - not to mention i have no die off other than some bloating. i know matia said not everyone gets die off but pretty much every person on here has at least mentioned major die off from SF becuase it's so strong. also, when i increased, i went up from 9 to 16 in one day and the only symptom i had was that i had 3bms in one day the next day. but that was it! is it really still possible that this stuff is doing anything positive for me at all and addressing my pain issue despite all this?

yeah, SF doesn't seem to affect my bladder -if I take none or if I take 18 in one day : same difference. I'm also on 3 goldenseal a day. Sometimes, I also wonder why the heck I keep taking stuff like this if there is no improvement in my bladder -but I guess the process is slow.Just please do a happy dance if this has not cause you to break out everywhere in your face, making you look like a big acne scar. Just do the dance for me :-)

Has anyone experienced sleeping poorly on sf?  I finally got to a point where my sleep was great and ever since starting sf, it has really been poor.

I have always had sleep problems but I have only noticed continual improvement since starting treatment with M.With regard to dieoff--I have been in treatment for 11 months.  I have been on 12 SF a day for 4 months in addition to Gseal and Ear and off and on mega.  I recetly went from 3 to 4 Ear per dose.  I've noticed more loose stools and going at least once, sometimes twice, a day.  This is unheard of for me!  I'm thinking it's from the Ear increase not the SF, but many on here say they get it from the SF.  I keep thinking I've been on the SF for a long time, will I ever get off it?  Lol.  Anyway, 4 weeks ago I got a tick bite.  I live on Long Island where ticks are everywhere and Lyme is rampant.  I was extremely worried at first, but Matia explained that with the protocol I'm on right now, it's impossible to get infected.  That was reassuring.  Then, 2 weeks after the bite I got my first bad cold in two years.  It was relentless and took 2.5 weeks to clear up.  Still, I am constantly clearing my throat and have some mucous despite not eating any dairy products.  Again, I was worried about the timing of the cold with the tick, but she assured me not to worry. Then, as soon as I got over the cold, last night I got hit with a bout of stomach flu symptoms.  I know this is probably all adding up to dieoff and maybe linked to the increase in Ear.  I haven't had many die off symtoms in 11 months and now I'm starting to wonder.  The timing with the tick bite (now 4 weeks ago) seems too coincidental.  I know I could just get a blood test, but my doctor charges $250 per visit plus the lab fees and I'm hesitating.  Also, I got the tick out within 10 hours and it hadn't dug in too much and wasn't engorged.  It was very red and itchy, but no bullseye mark.  Anyone here have experience with this? Also, my stomach flu has lasted about 12 hours but I'm still having that sour stomach and gurgly, crampy feeling.  Typaically in the past any dieoff I did have lasted like 2-3 hours, not this long.  Does this get better with time?  I know we have to get worse before we get better so I'm trying to just suck it up.  I don't want to eat much and have no energy, but can't seem to sleep much as I can only lay on my back so as not to vomit every second and my back aches so much right now I can't sleep.  UGH!!!