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Hi, I am a new pt of Dr. M. I saw her for the first time the first week in april and I just started my supplements on 4/15/13, so today is my 6th day. I feel worse then I did before I started anything. Before seeing Dr.M I was not an any meds for IC(i was controlling my symptoms with diet alone)...i knew from the start of my symptoms that I wanted to go the all natural route. My symptoms started in Jan which were pain, frequency, urgency. I followed her diet and mostly all my pain went away and I was just left with SOME  frequency and urgency. I thought that starting the supplements would decrease the frequency and urgency but it has just made it worse..did anyone else get worse before they got better? I am on list one and just drinking spring water. Does anyone have advice? I am not experiencing "die off symptoms" because I never really ate a lot of sugar or ate badly at all. And I dont think my problem is yeast..I am thinking that what dr. M has me on is flushing the bacteria out of my bladder and stirring things up... Or i could be completely wrong..i wake up 1-2 times per night and pee basically 1-2 times an hour that I am awake.. it is so annoying! before i started treatment i would sleep through the night w/o waking and i maybe went to the bathroom once every 2 hours...HELP!

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cprince

Hello Kpizzo and welcome! That is great that the diet was controlling your symptoms! I too got worse after starting treatment increased GERd, burning, frequency and urgency! I don't know what you are currently taking, but Dr. B initially started me on a cleansing protocol oil of oregano and goldenseal. I think it was too strong for my system. Still don't tolerate goldenseal 2 years into treatment. I had/have a severe yeast problem, but not necessarily from a poor diet, more autoimmune in nature. This is all very complicated! Be sure to let Dr. B how you are feeling, she will make adjustments to try to keep you more comfortable! Hang in there! Hugs!

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Mimij67

Hi K!
Glad you are in treatment with Dr. Brizman and getting started so soon after you developed symptoms. I know some people have a rocky start to treatment, trying to get stablized and comfortable. You are right that you are probably having die off in your bladder which could be uncomfortable. Or it could be an herb or probiotic? Dr. B always says to email her if you bladder symptoms increase. Your body is adjusting to the herbs, etc...
 
My first week was very uncomfortable. We were trying to figure out how much Natren Mega I could tolerate. It took about 5 days of trial and error. Are you taking probiotics yet? For me, that was the thing that needed to be adjusted. I had some increased frequency and pain after I emptied my bladder it would feel like my bladder was burning. We had to adjust the doses, but she helped me. She will do this for you too.
 
Did you email her at the urgent email? Use the word High Pain in the subject line (If this is, in fact, what you are experiencing) I am not sure if she is checking this week since the office is closed, but it is worth emailing just in case. 
I hope you are drinking a lot of water (I know, not obvious for those of us with bladder stuff...) 
The diet really stabilizes and reduces inflammation, but as you add in the herbs that are going to help your body really re-balance, the body can have a strong response temporarily.
I am so sorry you are off to a rocky start. Dr. B will help you, I promise. I have been in treatment for 6 months and have had a bunch of days with little to know symptoms in the last month. Ovulation is rocky, but generally I am doing so much better and sleeping through the night.
Please post if you have more questions. You will feel much better soon with Dr. Brizman's help!
 

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Star gazer

Hi guys thanks for the reply. I am on oil of oregano, goldenseal, ultraomega and natren probiotic....maybe this is too much for my system to tolerate :(  I did email dr brizman and she said to remove the ultraomega which i did and I have less pain and awareness of my bladder but still frequency and urgency. How do you all know that she is not in the office this week? I will try to email her again. Thanks again

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deir

HI! I am one that got worse. I definitetly think the supplements have stirred things up for me but I made the decision that I really want to heal fromthis and become a balanced person health wise not just feel better right now. I am very up and down so it hasn't been continually worse. I have many good days.Keep in contact and she will let you know what to do. The beginning can be very rocky so you are not alone in this at all!

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sandmor

 
Hi K,
This happened to me! I’m also a fairly new patient of Dr. Brizman (4 months). My symptoms also increased.  I communicated with Dr. B. almost every day and she made many adjustments until I felt comfortable.  The first couple of weeks are very difficult but your  body will adjust to the herbs and probiotic.  Contact Dr. B and she will help you. 
Hope you feel better soon!

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Mariposa

Hey love!
I can also attest to getting worse in the beginning. I was in a very similar situation to the one you described. Before seeing her for the first time (at the end of March, so I've only been in treatment for a few weeks longer than you) I had gotten my major symptoms down to a pretty stable and comfortable point. Then, when we started the herbs, it was AWFUL.
Like Christina, my GERD went crazy, and my bladder was really bad too. I communicated this to her and she got back to me immediately, switching me to the same protocol she started you with. The first  night I was on the oil of oregano, omega, and goldenseal I didn't sleep and I peed TWENTY times that night. The next day it was more normal, then after that I was back to where I was before. So now I"ve been taking this protocol for about two or three weeks.
Just keep her updated!
:)
 
Hannah

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Star gazer

Hey Hannah,
 
thanks for the reply, r u still on goldenseal, oil of oregano and omega? How long till your symptoms normalized? This is my 6th day and they are just getting worse. I feel like I constantly have to pee or have the urge to pee.. Its so uncomfortable. :(

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Pixie

Hey K!
Oh my goodness, just check my past posts...I had a lot of pain at first and felt like I was the ONLY one in the world who didn't get better at first....I had my symptoms pretty controlled through diet already and was thrown through a loop when I started the supplements.  
I talked to a couple of the listers who really reassured me that I was uncomfortable because my gut was getting stirred up and that this pain was evidence that my gut really is what is needed to get better and the regimen is the right one

It took me about 8 or 9 days to get used to my regimen but after that I felt much better than before...

For me, the goldenseal kills my bladder but we are all SO SO different  and she uses exact herbs to  your specific case... 

Just stick it out and communicate with her until you find something comfortable, you will find the right formula  :)! Don't give up , you are so close :)