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I just wanted to alert anyone that might be taking SF722- (a supplement that Thorne Research  makes) has changed an ingredient in their capsule- they just recently changed from a bovine gelatin form to a Tilapia based gelatin. They did not tell Matia about this change in ingredients. I imagine this is a rather innoculous change to anyone without IC but it makes a BIG difference in my life!  I noticed the bottle said- fish gelatin and I know tilapia can affect ICers so I thought I'd call Thorne and check to see if this was a new change. It was.  I don't know why they did this- cheaper? The bovine gelatin did not bother me whatsoever and this fish gelatin does. It was making me flare after my dose so I emailed Matia about it and she said to open the capules- (I use a sterile safety pin or knife) put in my mouth straight away or in water and consume it that way! I am happy that I can still use this brand new bottle. Anyway- just thought I would share that information. I was confused as to why all the sudden I was getting burning when I had been doing pretty good all week! anyway- simple solution! Thanks- and just thought I'd share.

Mary

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IC-Hope

Funny, she just put me on this for the first time and for whatever reason I noticed the tilapia thing on the back too.  In general, are we supposed to be opening up the capsules to take them?  or just if we have a problem w/ the capsules as in your case?
Anyone else take them as-is without a problem? Curious since I'm starting soon.  Thanks.

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Honeybee

I think in this case it might be prudent to open it up. I put mine in some water and drank it down- it wasn't bad at all- not too much taste to it. the bomamed made formulas capsules are swallow safe but most of the time I open capsules pour into water and drink it that way. I would check with Matia of course about taking all supplements open/closed unless its a Bomamed made formula. Usually she tells you to open things or if they are safe to swallow whole. Mary 

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ballerine

Hi Honeybee, thanks for letting us know! I am on SF too, didn't notice the change on the bottle at all. Haven't noticed a change in my symptoms either. Wonder about that....How many are you taking? I'm taking 5 SF, 3 x a day. 

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ballerine

Also, on the topic of SF, do you have any idea what this is supposed to do to the body? 

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janejones

Thanks Honeybee for this info re tilapia. I've found it gives me painful spasms in the colon so now I'm going to try opening the capsule. Ballerine, I was on 2 x2 a day but stopped due to pain, will resume today, starting with 1 at a time. I know its anti-fungal. I don't know if its got a laxative effect? As its a castor oil extract it sounds likely as this is what castor oil is normally taken for. Anyone know for sure? 

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Honeybee

I take 4 3x a day. SF722 is a very powerful anti-fungal yeast killer. I don't why I reacted- but maybe some are more sensitive than others- we are all different. Maybe a month from now I would not have reacted to the tilapia change but I know  I was burning from my last dose whole capsule! It may have other benefits- I'll ask Matia.Thanks!Mary

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Clueless

I just checked my bottle and it does say the capsule is made from Tilapia.  I usually can only take drops of this anyhow and not the whole capsule, but it is good to be aware of it.  I flare on Tilapia normally.

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flygirlsam

I just got put on this as well.  So, is it easy to find or do I have to order online?What can I expect as initial symptoms from the first few doses?  I know we're all different, but just in general terms. 

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Honeybee

You can fiind it at  iherb and some alternative healthcare pharmacies carry it but I've had trouble finding it at like say whole foods but maybe they can order it? It seems to be one of the kind of supplements that is sold through helathcare practitioners. Maybe cause its such a powerful anti-fungal? As far as reactions to SF722 -It all depends - I felt like for me it helped me out pretty quickly and I didn't get any werid symptoms or side effects until it was time to shift the dosage and then I was getting some burning although a different kind of burning than I get when I'm adjusting to the probiotics but that went away within 4-5 days in decreasing stages. Mary

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toreyg

so i just started the sf as well. i havent really had much die off in a while and now im feeling like im having hot flashes and just really flu like. im hoping this is die off.did anyone else experience this on the sf??

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Honeybee

I have definately experienced this. It's doing exactly what it is supposed to do!Mary

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flygirlsam

OK, so I'm on Mega and Bif and also Goldenseal, Ear and soon to be SF.  I know there needs to be at least an hour between the herbs and probiotics, but does anyone know if they need to be taken in any order?  For example, I've been waking up and starting with the herbs first then an hour later the probiotics (after my meal) but today I switched it.  I seem to want to take the probiotics before my meal and get them out of the way first thing...in my head I feel like they are more effective that way?  No idea why.  What order do you do it in or has Matia even explained this to anyone?

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nicole

SHe always had me take the pros after the sfs and the herbs.

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flygirlsam

My dosage of SF722 just got upped to 3, 3x/day from 2, 3x/day.  I wasn't feeling anything negative earlier and then today after my second new dosage (after the change) I started feeling achy, sore throat, fatigue, chills, just crummy...like the flu was coming on. I napped for a little while, woke up, and felt a little better, but still chills and achy. I'm sure it's die off related and I know I must power through these ill feeling symptoms...but it's disconcerting knowing everyone else around you IS sick with the cold or flu and then to get some symptoms yourself and not be sure which it is.  The only thing I can say is to wait and see if it clears up in a couple days and then you know?  Do others just assume it's die off related?  I figure, especially since my symptoms came on strong right away after the dosage change...it must be die off right?