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I thought this might help me- if you're interested join in!

 

Anytime you need to vent, however big or small- do it here but also remember to include something hopeful.

 

After all, no matter what,underneath it all- all of us must have a lot of hope and  optimism otherwise why would we be doing this?

 

 

V:  I am just missing an evening glass of wine right now. I am also really wishing I could get my hair professionally colored but I am too afraid. I am feeling a little unattractive.

 

H: I wake up with so much energy and never have even the tiniest bit of a hangover since alcohol is not a part of my life.

I am really starting to find a faith in God that I never really had before.

 

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SarahC

My vent: I'm having a flare today for the first time since starting the bif - everything buzzy and irritable, and I'm remembering how grim it is!
 
But on the hope side: I had nearly two weeks (since Sept 9) of feeling basically 90%-100% normal. It was WONDERFUL - had forgotten how easy and pleasant life can be. And even remembered to be happy about it over the weekend with a sick three-year-old! And ... it gave me hope that there'll be a time when I'll feel like that for good.

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fahlmank

Deir......Very balanced... I like this idea.
V: We have had to take a break on finding a combo that is right for calming my heart rate down because I have caught a cold.
H: The tooth pain has gone away and I have been able to successfully tolerate foods on list 3. 
I am starting to think I should keep a journal with thoughts like this. 

SarahC's picture
SarahC

I tried aubergine at the weekend and was fine with it - SO delicious. It was amazing eating something new - I haven't really, since the start of the year!

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Christine222

Lets see.... vent... I had my protocol changed and the next day I was feeling great, but that only lasted a day..... bummer, and trying to get up to 2 Bif's 3x a day has been extremely hard and I still can't do it!
Hope is knowing that I have had days of feeling completely normal and I know they will come again!
Deir, I have always highlighted my hair at home, with a frosting kit, the kind you pull through the cap. I really want to switch to the safer kinds but I am so worried my hair will turn orange. I have used my same old color kit twice and so far, and I was fine both times. I am not advocating doing this but I think since it didn't actually touch my skin it wasn't very hard on my bladder.

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deir

Hi Christine- I always used toc olor my hair great at home but in the past few years- it doesn't turn out well at all- totally brassy and orange. I hate it like that and I am pretty vain about my hair. I guess if i just got highlights at a salon, it wouldn't be that toxic.

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Christine222

Well at the salon they use foil and it will still sit on your scalp. I would be afraid to try that. When I did it at home I never let it touch my skin. I applied with gloves and rinsed it off the cap in a sink then got in the shower.

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blondy

I brought my dye to the salon and the stylist mixed and applied it. It felt great. It does look a little orange, honey color to be exact. That is the lightest color I could find in Naturtint. But better than nothing. I am satisfied.

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Christine222

Girl you need to post a picture of your hair! I am too nervous to try Naturtint because I think I would look terrible with orangish hair.

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deir

I've tried it before and even though my hair is naturally dark blonde, it came out really orangy. I just can't do that to my husband again! (Meaning, the regret that I have after a bad die job)

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blondy

I won't lie. It does look orangey :), but I am happy to lighten my hair. 
 

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deir

ha ha ha.
Also- can't believe I wrote "die"instead of "dye"

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Tommygurl

Being that today mark day 6 of diet one and I'm barley starting, this helps..  I too am looking for a hair color but I see I will need to wait until at least List 2?  The greys are out, ugh.
Vent:  Today, I took off my acrylic nails after 4 years having them on.  Kinda sad (I'm a nail biter)...  I feel so naked w/o them.  Yep, vanity... I also had a serious bout of depression ALL DAY this Sunday.  Why?  I have no idea but I was able to snap out of it come Monday.
Hope:  2 days of no flareup!  This is HUGE for me.  I'm sticking to the diet one list and it has been helping tremendously.  I even tried caulifower for the 1st time and despite thinking I would hate it, I dont mind it.  Although I gave in Sat night with leftover teriyaki chicken since I was starving late at night.  Note to Self:  dont do this again!!  I paid for it all day Sunday.  There is hope that I'm on the right path and counting down the days to meet Matia for my 1st appt on Oct 7 (only 17 more days to go)!!
 

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DLFox123

Vent - I've been doing this far too long - am so tired of it all - the dark circles, the exhaustion, the sinus headaches, and not loosing weight when I gave up dessert.  What the heck gives with THAT?! Oh, and I want a flipping margarita on the rocks with salt.  Or, a peach balini.  Or, a mimosa.  Oh, and plumb wine.  Gosh, I loved plumb wine....speaking of whining :) I am tired of the little bumps all over my body, the whicked itching that still occurs, the bottom of my feet hurting, and one minute madly loving the man in my life, and the next minute wondering how I'm going to find a place of my own that will let me bring my five cats. (OK, I know, five cats is not normal - actually four, the fifth is a deranged kitten)
Hope - I AM BETTER. I can pretty much eat what I want if it isn't the forbidden things.  the inflamation, from a bunch of surgeries, is giving up its grip.  The sinus headaches don't happen nearly as often, sex no longer hurts, I haven't had a UTI for well over a year, my anxiety which was off of the chart, has become fairly well controlled, my pap exams are now normal, I AM SLOWLY HEALING (OK, the slowly part is still venting)
Deir - thanks for the great idea!

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Christine222

Denise you crack me up. I've got 3 cats, don't worry, five doesn't seem that bad! I'm glad you are seeing poative changes, even if they are SLOW to come!

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DLFox123

Thanks!

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deir

V- I can't seem to get one whole good day . Yesterday was GREAT! 99% normal until 3:30 and then- awful for the rest of the day
 
H- I emailed Dr b that my pms rage was off teh charts and she changed something with my regime and -amazingly I feel so much more relaxed. Wow. Plus it was a probiotic change- I had NO idea that that would affect my mood.

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DLFox123

Bifidus?  So,  H - I can finallyt take two at a time and not turn into a raging lunatic. AND, I don't feel like V Today!

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soniafa

Travelling through the roller IC coast is not fun, but I’m feeling better and better everyday.
 
Vent: I’m reacting to Evian water at the moment and I’m still seeking for the right one for me. Testing new things is always scary because the consequence is: PAIN.
 
Hope: I had a very bad flare up UTI-like last week but Matia got me through it in just 2 days. She’s amazing. Now I feel quite ok.. I’m stable with just dull-bladder pain level 1-2 … I’m noticing the “almost normal” days are gradually more often… I still have horrific ones in between, but I can see I’m improving. I have hope-I am certain this treatment will work for me.

 

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SarahC

VENT - After definitely the best month since starting, and another couple of good days, I am suddenly in the last couple of hours having a REALLY nasty flare - urgency, which I haven't had for ages. The urgency always really scares me, and makes me think I'm going to get really bad again. AND - it's my birthday! Sob!!
 
HOPE - I had a lovely pre-birthday treat with my partner yesterday - went to see Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy at the cinema. Felt fine all the way through, and then came home, ate tuna steaks and spinach and had lovely sex. Six months ago, couldn't have managed the cinema or the sex!
 
Oh and just a minor extra vent - it is my birthday! - I am so sick of having spots on my back! Have had them for about nine months now and it sucks!!

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calieve

Happy Birthday SarahC! Aww sorry to hear about your flare I hope you get better quick so you can enjoy the rest of your day.
Have you emailed Dr. B to see if there is anything you can take to help your flare?

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SarahC

Thanks calieve! Alas, it's been another average day today - nothing unbearable - just aware all the time. Period due tomorrow so hoping it'll get on and arrive and I'll get some relief. Have really noticed in last three months as things have calmed a bit how much everything's tied to hormones - before my period is always sucky.
 
So! Today's vent: I'm still not there mentally, with this. I find it impossible to focus on how good things have been when they're bad again, and impossible to believe when things are bad that I'm getting better, despite empirical evidence to the contrary!
 
But hope: I feel much less bad before my period this month than I did last month, and MUCH less bad than I did the month before that (which was a doozy). Onwards and upwards!

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Christine222

Vent - Me too, before my period this month I felt really crappy and I was blaming it all on trying to get down 2 Bifido's. Now that my period is over I am feeling really well and the Bifido's are going down fine! I did notice this month that my cramps weren't as bad either, each month they do get less and less.
 

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SarahC

Ah, Christine, interesting! Are you finding you notice it more as you're improving? I never noticed hormonal stuff when I was just generally feeling crappy! Roll on next week. I've felt generally really hormonal this month  - breasts really sore since ovulation, spotty, you name it! Hmmnf.

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Christine222

I think I have always noticed I feel worse right before my period and when I ovulate. I do find I am feeling better as the months go by, but those times still cause me trouble.

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deir

Sarah- I am exactly with you as far as the emotional stuff you talked about. But even with that I am doing so much better than when thhis started in January.
 
V-- my body looks so blah to me right now since I have been barely exercising due to the muscle stuff. I miss dancing.
 
H-- Again- my period came on day 28!! That is amazing. Plus seeing the bifido's effect on my PMS and how Dr B KNEW that would work is helping to build my confidence in her even more!

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deir

V_ Just when I started to feel some calm about this- My darn muscles are being weird again. All I did was gently stretch and now I feel pian all through my right shoulder.
 
H- My bladder  has been good for 2 days straight

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Christine222

V - My hair looks like it belongs on a witch! It used to be so nice, now it's dry, frizzy, dull, gray and thinning!
 
H- My bladder was good for 3 days straight, but right now it's alittle annoyed but nothing too bad.

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Shelby

Vent:    My body feels like I've been hit by a truck. I have a headache and I'm fed up with IC.
Hope:    I had a few really good days over the weekend where I felt pretty normal bladderwise.
Christine:  My hair is gray, I quit dying it and I feel like I loose 200 hairs a day instead of the normal 100.   

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Christine222

Glad to hear your bladder felt pretty normal for a few days, that is so good, I know how bad you have been feeling! Just keep remembering she told you six months til you would feel a change and that hasn't even come yet! And yea, the hair thing stinks but hopefully when we are all healthy it will start to look nice again.

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SarahC

All hope today!! Firstly, I got my period, thank the good lord, and secondly, I just had my appt with Matia and she has ok'd me to try some list three foods!! I am SO excited - though also a little nervous. Am going to try tomatoes first - who'd've thought it, for us ICers?!
 
OK and small vent. Spots! Luckily, I mainly don't get them on my face, but my back and chest, hmmph. I have been trying one thing that seems to help, though - the oil cleansing method with jojoba oil. A slight improvement, I think ...

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Shelby

What is the oil cleansing method?

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deir

Shelby- I believe it is just using jojoba oil and nothjing else to clean your skin

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Christine222

List three makes it so much easier to stick with the diet! I have greek yogurt with blueberries everyday, I love it! Also tomatoes are great for making sauce and stuff! Congrats on moving up!

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lynette

Read all of your posts and was good to see that there are so many that I identify with:
Vent - We changed my meds on Friday and pretty much immediately my frequency and urgency went through the cieling and the pain level followed.  I am in my ninth month of treatment and still have more bad days than good, I had had some good days and it is really tough emotionally and mentally to deal with being pulled back into the pit of misery again.  We changed things Monday but they have not improved yet so have given in today am off work with my daughter who is ill and have just given in and sat on the sofa all day watching films...I know this isn't good and I should be meditating and deep breathing to keep the body calm.  The house is a tip and I should be cleaning it up but cannot be bothered, just want some relief from the pain, burning, constant wanting to go to the toilet.......enough all ready!!!!
Hope - I did have a week of pain levels down to a 1 to 3, like you Dier I never have a whole day being stable.  I felt like my 'old' self at work, had confidence in myself and a little more energy rather than feeling completely exhausted.  This is the most since starting treatment so need to remember this but like you Sarah it is hard to think positively when having a bad day...ooops...that sounds like a vent, sorry!
Thanks all of you for your posts, I hope we can keep this up as so many of you voice things that I feel, makes me feel like I'm not the only one.......
Wishing you all so many more positive improvements leading to alot more hopes than vents.
L x

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deir

HI Lynette- I wish you had better news but even a few good days is a view into the future for you!
Don't feel bad about sitting on the couch watching movies- that's fine!

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flygirlsam

VENT:  Going on 3 years of the diet.  I love eating healthfully, don't get me wrong.  I was always into nutrition before and fully realize the benefits.  BUT, even though I'm on list 3 (with a few things from 4 occasionally), I feel like I'm in prison sometimes and have no freedom.  I hate the word cheat since it is followed by guilt which is a useless emotion, but I literally can't stop from cheating once every few weeks.  And I cannot get over how much, after all this time, my bladder stuff flares after 3 freaking bites of a dessert or even a piece of dark chocolate or grain sw choc chips.  I feel horrible the next day, but of course in the moment I make the choice, for my own sanity, to enjoy it and sometimes say....well, let me just experiment a little and see how my body reacts this time.....and everytime it's the same.  I want to eat healthy, I do not miss alcohol or candy or any of it, in general, but I JUST so badly want to be able to eat a dessert when out for a special occasion, or a slice of pie at Christmas dinner without having to make my own "special" healthy version that never comes out right.  Some days, I even think being back on list 1 would be better for me since I wouldn't be as tempted to "try" this and that from lists further down to test my healing progress.  Over the summer I froze some bananas to put in my husband's smoothie and one night I thought, well let me just try a little frozen banana-sounds delicious and it's better than cheating with ice cream, right?  And then one night led to several nights and then I was in bad shape.  From a freaking BANANA!  I wanted to cry.  How crazy is it we can't eat them once in a while!  I get it but it's not fair.  
I just want some freedom from this strict, restrictive way of life.  Even anything agave bothers me.  Question: I often wonder---since we can eat brown rice, shouldn't brown rice syrup be a safe "cheat" sweetener for us over agave?  I've never dared buy any or tried any.  Has anyone asked Matia about this?  I sometimes have those grain sweetened choc chips in my freezer for an "emergency" treat.  Lst night I was having a PMS moment and I had a small handful.  A HANDFUL!  I want to cry thinking about this small little treat I gave myself and now am paying for all night and today.  So irritating.  
HOPE:  Matia and I figured out why I may be regressing with my IC (besides the monthly cheat with chocolate).  As a pilot, I cannot get spring water when I am at work.  The company only uses Dasani or Dannon water and the airport where I am based only sells Aquafina!  It's so annoying!  I am on the road for 4-5 dys at a time so it's not fasible to bring enough water for my trips obviously.  So about 12 days a month I can only get one of those awful choices.  I am transferring soon to the East Coast, where I live, and will have a slightly better time with it, but still I won't be able to drink only spring 100% of the time.  As much as this stinks and Matia is not happy about it, I am hopeful, at least, that we better know why things are the way they are and she can alter my protocol to account for this obvious hurdle with my work.  I only wish she would explain a bit more WHY it is such a huge deal....I need to go back and read some of the articles she has posted on water I guess!  It would be nice to hear it form her perspective though, somehow it all makes more sense when she explains stuff in terms we can understand.  I miss the monthly calls!  Any feedback is appreciated if you know more.

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DLFox123

I've been doing this for just a little over a year - you were one of the people that I followed before I took the plunge and started this track.  I just started when the monthly support group ended - I had been looking forward to it. What happened? Anyway, I was so hoping that you "disappeared' because you were doing great.
Yeah - I get the treat thing.  After a year of being fairly good - I had a berry margarita and half of an apple pie with vanilla ice cream crispy thing.  For the first time in months my private parts felt hot and swollen.  I just wanted a drink and some flipping dessert - pretty sure the drink probably helped me on my way to the dessert :).
I'm afraid I don't have the answer on the water.  I do know that when I first started I held off on changing from filtered water to the srping water - it did seem to help when I finally switched - not what you probably wanted to hear. This may be a really dumb question, but do you think there is anything that you could do to better the water that you have? A filter? Probably a dumb idea - but a thought.
Vent - right now my muscles are starting to freak out.  I lifted my kitten - not a cat - with my left arm, at a weird angle.  I swear that it felt like I'd broken it.  The pain finally calmed down and I wrapped it with heat - took two forbidden tylenol and finally got to sleep at 1:00.  Now, it hurts a bit, my arms and legs are both weak - and I'm one pissed off tired camper!
Hope - I am better in so many ways - and am hoping the new muscle thing is short lived.
Hang in there (maybe not the best thing to say to a pilot :))
All my best

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researchnerd

I COMPLETELY AGREE.  I'm in the same boat.  A little more than 3 years of treatment, still cant tolerate list 4, cant even tolerate an apple.   In grad school and get stuck eating things that are "clean enough" sometimes and make me flare like crazy--but I just don't have time to spend all that time cooking.  Plus, I still have plenty of shitty days, and I'm really really really tired of fellow HEALTH students being up in my face about my dietary choices.
 
Hope:  I'm pretty sure I'm not going to get any ghastly diseases, and further more I know I'm going to age well.  

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deir

V:- I am flat out despairing right now because I am still on list 1- Dr b thought I'd be moving up a few days after seeing her in May. I read that some people still feel so bad 3 years in and I am so so sad- I don't even know what to do with myself. Why am I not progressing?
 
H: deep down I know I made the only best decision I could make.

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Christine222

I'm so sorry to hear this. Have you tried anything on list 2 and you flare or does she just not feel you are ready yet?

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deir

I just can't tell what is bothering me because I never have a stable span. This week was the best I've had and i am really bad tonight.
 
I can deal with the diet.  it is just that it makes me so afraid that I won't get better. Also it worried me that she thought I'd be handling stuff and I don't appear to be which makes me think she isn't right about it taking me about a year to heal either. I hate to even say that but it is my deepest darkest fear.
 I feel l like if I could say to myself,"Well, look how you're moving on to the next list" It would give me a tangible feeling like I am progressing.
 
Before I went to her, I wa tolerating many more foods than what I am eating but she doesn't want me to try list 2 until I  stabilize. Again- this is fine as far as feeling ok about the food although it is boring. I just keep thinking- why can't I seem to move on and will I ever?
 

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researchnerd

I didn't want to freak anyone out about saying I still have bad days after 3 years. I also have cheated in the past etc.  So it might not take as long as for any of you!  We're all different.
 
I'm going to post an awesome treat recipe for list 3 that should be ok for you Sam, thats super satisfying.

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deir

Thanks- I never cheat EVER and yet I haven't really felt a day to day difference in my bladder. That freaks me out even more. If I cheated I could blame it on that.

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fahlmank

Deir, After I had my Cecilia (my 18 month old), I was up and down like crazy. It was like I could NOT find footing to stabilize my bladder no matter what I did.... remember... I am not a rookie at this either. I know my body pretty well after 11 years of having IC ... so I thought....I know what makes me flare and what doesn't, I will pull out of this quickly. WRONG! I had months of ups and downs for no apparent reason and then suddenly...the inflammation calmed down. 
So.. I understand why you are upset. List 1 is NOT easy, but my experience is that my bladder inflammation stabilized and quickly as the disease came and once that happened, I could not be triggered so easily by food. 
Also.. remember that these lists are very subjective. For example, I stabilized on list 2 when I went out to see Dr.B. She moved me to List 3 the following week BUT I still cannot tolerate some stables of list one or two... like eggs or wheat, spelt, kamut. So, even though I may say I am on list 3, there are things you can eat that I couldn't even think about.
I am sending a hug to you. We are all in this together:)
Katie

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blondy

What's interesting is how my symptoms changed through the time. The feeling of discomfort varies in nature and appears in different places with slightly different supplementing symptoms. Before, my main concern was bladder pain, then vaginal itching; now it is pressure and bloating as well as pain when I hold passed first symptoms of urgency. The others still present, but they come and go while the ‘main’ symptom hangs for a while. I am hoping I am going through stages of healing. Otherwise, it may look like I am getting worse because every few months something new hits out of the blue, something I am not used to and unfamiliar with. Of course, it is puzzling.  
I thought I have inflammation (and I still do). My new symptoms are pressure and bloating along with personal record urgency. I am on list 2 (sparingly trying list 3). I don't know what's going on. I almost feel it is some kind of food reaction. I tested for allergies, they didn't find anything, which I just have hard time believing. Why would my stomach bloat and gas any time I eat? Like Deir, I am noticing that I may be tolerating fewer foods than before (or if it is food intolerance perhaps it took a while for those milder offenders to start making real and noticeable adverse difference). Bottom line is that I felt the best on list 1. I may have to go back to list 1. 
I also know that I must get more vegetables in and be more active during the day.

My hope is a long shot. I can reach there one step at the time.
 
 
 
 

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flygirlsam

I'm sorry for bringing you all down!  That wasn't my intent, please believe me.  I just needed to vent!  Matia never thought it would take me this long either, but as I said the cheating hasn't helped nor has my job of flying which causes baceterial imbalance in and of itself apparently.  Thanks for posting that treat too!  You know, I do get burning after yogurt but I eat some anyway.  I try to avoid dairy in my life as a general rule as I just don't think it is good for my body.  I always put on weight and get pimples and mucus in my throat, but I have had to allow myself a little plain yogurt here and there to stay sane.  I also try for goat yogurt when I can since it's easier to digest.  THe fact that I still cannot tolerate a little dairy is very upsetting as I know it means my gut has not healed.
I made a yummy treat this morning!  I have no idea if this was technically allowed, but I made it as healthy as I could:
Using Pamela's GF pancake mix, I made delicious pancakes w/bits of fresh berries and then took frozen berries and boiled them in a pot to reduce them down, added some arrowroot (starch-is this allowed?) to get it less watery and topped my pancakes with the fruit "sauce" and a dollop of plain yogurt for some protein.  And of course some butter on each pancake! Boy was it good and just what I needed on this chilly morning.  I just could not tolerate one more day of eggs (there were eggs in the pancakes for some protein).  But I'm sure my blood sugar is soaring now and we'll see how I react in a few hours.
 

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deir

Oh No Sam! I am so so sorry. My own obsession about getting well made me not think how it feels to be venting and have people respond that way. So sorry.
 
Please- don't feel like you need to censor what you say. I am such a fearful, pessimistic person right now and it sucks. I feel like I am messing up in each area of my life-even this darn board.
 
The pancakes sound amazing- I hope you react just fine to them!
xoxo

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researchnerd

Have you seen this Sam?  Natasha posted it awhile ago--its free delivery in NY.  I'm going to get my first batch this week, but I've heard its pretty awesome.  They have goat yogurt.
 
http://uddermilk.com/

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junie

hi ic family!  I saw dr. brizman on friday the sept 30th and the trip was AWFUL, i had extreme pain in the urethra, i felt like calling 911 on my way to see her.  once i met her, i felt some emotional comfort. 
v:  i've been feeling beyond burning pain in the urethra and dr. brizman said it's because of the flu vaccination.  i didn't know, but she said she wouldn't recommend vaccinations....so now i'm suffering even more so.  i feel like i can't go on with this pain....i wonder when will i get better.
h:  just reading some of the HEALING stories gets me going.  i know that i will get better.

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Christine222

Hi and welcome! So sorry you are suffering due to a vaccine, she is right, they are hard on the body. I hope you will start to feel better soon!

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